I never quite grasped the principle of the wheelbarrow, or worked out where the flies go in the winter, but I had no trouble at all working out how to use a johnny bag - you just put it on your dick (after it goes hard I should point out - otherwise it might fall off - the johnny that is not your dick -my name is Harry Worth).

Anyway, where was I - oh yeah, I get sick to f**king death of listening to debates about the need for more and more sex education. Some daft bird will ring in telling us she's got two kids, had three abortions and half a dozen STDs, and she's still only 21. She's outraged, claiming it's the governments/schools fault because no one told her about rubber johnnies, and how, why and when they should be used.

After much debate it always turns out that the only way forward is for the Government to spend yet more money to educate our young people in this very complicated subject i.e. how to have a shag without all the unwanted consequences - the clap and such like.

They wind me up every time - and I'm the most laid back mellow chilled out person you could wish to meet.

Ask yer mum she obviously struggled...

Hilarious. That's your best post ever, Jimbo!

Ooh this thread had a link at the bottom to this:

Rubber Pants

What the fuck? Enema pants!!!! Now those I want. Soz seem to have gone off topic...

I don't think that it's the lack of knowledge on how to use contraception that is the problem, I think that too many young people are having sex with partners they don't yet know well enough to ask them to wear a condom, or even discuss birth control. We don't need to educate kids on contraception as much as we need to make them feel comfortable talking about it.

It actually dawned on me this morning that some young tike is going to want to get their mits on my eldest sometime soon ( though I can't see her letting them just yet) and the thought scares the shit out of me.

May be a sweeping statement but I'd withdraw state support for the single mothers and force the CSA to do their job. It seems like a career choice with most now at 14 to have kids and let someone else pay. If there is no free money and no free house dangling for them, they may think twice about getting pregnant in the first place,

Another thing that should also be enforced far more is to prosecute people who make under aged girls more pregnant. I'm sure a 19 year old might think twice about having sex with his 15 year old girlfriend if it led to a couple of years in jail and a lifetime on the sex offenders register.

I concurr.
It seems that the problem is aways blamed on someone else.

For fuck sake, if a 13 year old girl has sex, is it not safe to assume that because she knows about sex, she knows about what makes babies?????

As we used to say in the army, it's not fucking rocket science.

Why thank you kind Sir - that's saying something. I came up with a few crackers on the Teddy Bear International Incident - but the Thought Police wouldn't let them through.

Anyway this is one thread we all seem to be in accord - which is nice.

Good lad - not a Guardian reader and doesn't mind who knows.

Completely agree.

The council estate I come from has about 80% of the lasses still living there with at least 3 kids in tow - none of them has ever worked and the majority of their blokes (and I use the plural on purpose there) have never held down a permenant job either.

Believe me, I'm not one for going on a massive fascist rant - this is just fact, I've grown up with it and see it still when I go home to visit my family.

I don't believe it's this bad everywhere but the root cause is the same - give the kids something to aspire too rather than a life on benefits then maybe the effect/outcome would be different.

No way.

Those poor little dears have been let down by our system so we can not abandon them to a life of work and meaningful contribution to society.

If we do that where is the next generation of chavs, un-insured motorists, burglars, muggers and general trash going to come from ?

bet they were glad that you left then eh dad ?!!!!