WHY do we put up with this kind of crap.

These pictures are of Muslims marching through the streets of London.
I had a fantastic childhood growing up in the East end of London, Bloody glad my Kids wont be growing up there. <_<

I thought there were new laws about incitement to racial violence?

Ohhh I cant even comment on this, as I know I will go on for ages, use lots of terrible language and probably get barred from the yellow screen in the process needless to say :sign53: :sign53: :sign53: :sign53: :sign53: :sign53: !!

Will leave you to think what the above is saying!!!!

Truly ridiculous to allow this in any public place.

Political correctness gone mad to allow this :angry: :angry:

Another reason why we left the UK.

Biting my tongue over this as well!!!!!!!!!!! :ph43r: :ph43r: :ph43r:

It's not hard to find ignorance and intolerance anywhere.......








it stinks.....wherever it is found......

Very nice pictures Andy.
Now try and find some of British marching in their country with a police escort to protect them <_<

Can you imagine if i went to Islams home land and paraded banners saying Go You Aussies.

Stevo.

Abu Hamza got seven years for incitement to murder and racial hatred.

I give up. :sigh:

D

Nice one Andy. :P

Some have tended not to need a police escort too much!





It comes in all shapes and forms and none of it is right!

Alan.

OK maybe I didn't explain my request very well <_<

Could you find some pictures of British people or Christians marching through a capital city of an Islamic country ? I doubt it or you would have already posted some.

Alan your pictures don't even come close to balancing the scale.
I very much doubt the gun is actually pointed at that Lady in the picture, Nice camera angle though.
Is the boy crying because his carton of milk is empty.

To show images of BNP members with britain is full up banners and muslims out as if trying to justify muslim protests? truly pathetic.

How can you compare people threatening another 9/11 to people who dont want terrorists in their country?

Obviously there is a sinister element to so called muslims and the BNP,combat18 etc. but people on this site seem to almost jump to the defence of muslims as opposed to defending their fellow countrymen.

Either that or they just like to antagonize people as they have nothing better to do.

Yeah Abu Hamza did get 7 years, ohh that makes everything else o.k then, what a knob.

If a similar situation was going on in oz would you still be so flippant.

darren

I suspect that would be because it would probably be illegal and possibly dangerous. Many countries often do not have the freedoms that we have. That is why you often hear about people desparately trying to flee these oppressive regimes for a better life for them and their families.

There is no justification for any of these photographs

Whilst Australia is far from perfect, I think we have a much more tolerant society here. Probably because we're mostly all immigrants.
There are frequent media attempts to stir that particular pot.....preying on the ignorant (Alan Jones/Cronulla/Hanson etc)....but for the majority, the colour of a person's skin, or where they choose to go to church, or who they sleep with is as significant as how tall they are, or whether they part their hair to the left or the right. They might not break bread together....but there is a respect for other's differences, and most folk have a "live and let live" mentality.

There are the same sort of folk all over the world...left wing, right wing, muslim/christian/jewish etc fundamentalists..................All bad...........

I was'nt being flippant Darren. I was merely referring to the double standards the U.K government has proved itself capable of.

And knob is not a very nice word :P

D

One of the reasons we wanted out of the UK is because of the extremeist views being allowed to be voiced with little or no consequence. I personally don't want my kids growing up in a society where the word "freedom" is bandied about on one hand but in reality if you challange it you receive anything but unless you are an oppressed minority.

Then again, I find it difficult to take anyone serioulsy who waves a banner (Delboy's original post, 3rd up, 3rd from the right) which looks like it says "butcher those who MORK Islam".

Nanu Nanu.

:D Mork from Ork.

Nice one Mindy.

Nanu Nanu. ;)

I suppose from my point of view, therein lies the problem, "balancing the scale". Has that ever happened in the past? Realistically, is it ever likely to happen? For anyone who has lost a friend or loved one in a terrorist atrocity, I wonder if there is anything that can ever compensate them for their loss?

Who knows the true answer except those who were present at the time. To the observer the answer depends on which side of the razor wire you live.

There are extremists in every society and we will always be susceptible to their views and actions. Thankfully they are still a minority and hopefully they will remain so but that will never happen by blasting them all to Kingdom Come at every opportunity. As fantastical and hippyish as it may seem to some, there is always hope, there is always scope for change without the need for further bloodshed. It IS possible to protect and defend ourselves without endangering and offending. An eye for an eye just means there are more half blind people in the world.

Who would have thought during the height of the Northern Ireland troubles they would ever have seen the day when Ian Paisley and Martin McGuinness would stand side by side working for the common good.

To quote from my signature "If your heart is a volcano, how shall you expect flowers to bloom?"

Alan.

Because our politicians are a bunch of wallys who are to worried about offending people! I was listening to a debate today about Salman Rushdie being given a knighthood, some group in Pakistan are saying that reprisals are imminant!
Should his knighthood be taken back? Crap no!
Why should we give in to these terrorists and bullies!
It's strange how more people were moaning about Salman Rushdie but not condeming the bombers and terrorists!
Strange!
Try marching through Bhagdad with an 'UP YOURS ' banner! you'll end up in a cell withh electrodes on you gonads!!!!!!!!!!

If they come to another country to escape the oppressive regimes then why do they bring their banners to the UK???
They should be living a happy peaceful life not stirring up s**t and racial hatred.
We all know how much the government and local authorities bend over backwards to make them feel at "home" in their new country...cant say this or do that etc.
Stinks of "bite the hand that feeds..."
Sarah :sigh:

If i were PM of England i would round them all up and send them back to wherever it is they wish to preach there b******t,bet they would soon change there tune as they were being escorted onto the plane with there 1 way ticket...And to say the 2 groups of pictures are similar,no way man.

No way are the 2 pictures similar !!! One is of British protesting in Britain... ( Maybe right , maybe wrong ... thats another debate !!) The other is another race and religeon protesting in Britain AGAINST Britain !!!!!
I don't agree with the BNP or similar parties but if the muslim society is going to act like this then i can see why the BNP will react in return !!!

I'm not sure that every single muslim in the UK was at the march....just as I'm not sure every single white person in the UK is a member of the NF or BNP. Therein lies the problem of attributing characteristics to an entire group of people based on their colour/religion/sexual orientation etc.
(Incidentally, British nationalism has been around since the end of the 2nd world war.....so I'm not sure the BNP are suddenly "reacting")

Mmm, what constitutes being British I wonder....is British a particular religion?
Both sets of photos look to me like British xenophobic bigots protesting in Britain.

I would imagine it was their parents or grandparents who escaped other countries, or were invited over from "the colonies" in the fifties to boost the workforce. Individuals have to take responsibility for racial hatred....only you can choose to hate someone.

Why would that be? is perhaps a question to ponder......

I thought someone would say "how do we know those muslims are not British ??"
and yes you could be right Andy they maybe.... The politicians of the 70's and 80's have a lot to answer for in hindsight !!!!????

Is the situation different in Australia would you say?

seems to me this protest was in feb 2006, organised by al-ghuraba, as opposed to 'muslims', and was protesting about the danish cartoons, and maybe the so called war on terror.
it attracted less than 700 participants, which is less than 0.05% of the muslim population of britain. hardly a representation of muslims.
furthermore it seems that arrests were made. eventually

Well i for one am not threatening to blow Australia up on Sept 11 and when moving to Oz swore to abide by the Australian rules of the land NOT like the immigrants back in the UK. ;)

Andy,how can you defend these Terrorists who threaten innocent people in a place they should feel safe, (there homes )By people who apparentely have gone to Britain for assylum,but hate the place and people,and freely walk around talking of a European 9/11 coming .I have friends and family there and can fully understand any backlash that may come the Muslim 's way.Shame the Government and people in charge are so guttless and weak.

Someone said fairly recently that although it was certainly true that not all muslims were terrorists, regrettably at the time it seemed that most terrorists were muslims...

It must be very tough being a peaceful follower of Islam in this day and age, so all credit to those that manage it, especially when the British government do their best to stir things up by giving Salman Rushdie a knighthood (or OBE or whatever it was!)

I am not attempting to defend anyone, but it doesn't hurt to dissect things like this and try and keep feet on the ground.

The successful attacks in London were all done by British citizens....not asylum seekers.....yet asylum seekers are dragged in to the mix

Should every muslim be blamed, or made to feel afraid.....should every middle aged doctor be blamed for the actions of Dr Shipman, every german for the actions of Hitler ...etc etc


fine to be cross with people....but let's be cross with the right people....fundamentalists and extremists who preach hatred the world over, irrespective of whatever colour or religion they happen to be.

Ok, so you are one less to worry about :D ......but do you think that the situation in Australia is different?

Well why let the British citizens marching through London ,Shouting death to anyone against Islam go home at night .No one is blaming every Muslim just the ones in the pictures who are obviously not trying to cause any trouble.

The uk authorities are supposedly keeping tabs on 2000 or so muslim fanatics.

there are an estimated 750,000 people in the uk that are unnacounted for, even if just say a thousand of those have connections with extreme muslim groups thats a pretty big potential for future atrocity.

Why do people try to level the scales by saying ohh it's only 0.05% of the muslim community, obviously there is a bigger percentage of muslims that know whats going on and seem quiet on the whole issue.
Cant say i have seen or heard of many muslim demonstrations where they are opposing extremists who hide behind their religion, bit on the quiet side for me.

Yeah we have heard it all before andy, but their is bad christians,jews,BNP etc.....
The bottom line is it's a worsening global problem, these liberal ideals and trying to be sensitive so as not to upset other people's belief's and culture's is why western values are now threatened, all in the name of multiculturism.

what would they be...?
and how would they differ from Eastern/Northern/Southern values

At the end of the day, the vast majority of folk....be they Christian, Jew, Muslim, Rastafarian, Jedi.....all want to get on with their partner, have food on the table, some nice times with the kids, lie ins at weekend etc etc. Most are happy to just get on with life.

A few...want to force their ideas on others and feel that everyone should live the way they do...and are quite happy to kill people to achieve that....see all of the above (with the exception of the Jedi.....and probably the Rastafarians). They haven't quite got their heads around the fact that it doesn't work....and that only discussion, understanding and compromise does work (a la Northern Ireland as previously mentioned).
Tarring a whole group of people with the one brush does nobody any favours....

Do a search for Oaklahoma - 1995 - Timothy McVeigh.....or Omagh - 1998....or ETA - supermarket Hipercor - Barcelona..... Army of God
All good white christian folk.....(however I do not blame all the other good white christian folk in the world nor suspect them of harbouring bombers).
Potential for bad folk to do things exists everywhere....however most folk are not bad folk

I suggest that if you know these people, I would be letting the authorities know

I wonder what the Muslims who live in Adelaide think about all these immigrants, with these anti muslim views, coming to live in THEIR city and country.

G

Well i'm sure as long as none of the Muslim population of Adelaide start trying to blow innocent people up we will all get on just fine!
And i dont feel the comments are anti Muslim....they are anti terrorist!
I do my deliveries in the areas that were affected by the attempted suicide bombers in London, my wife is becoming increasingly worried for my safety when she hears of these incidents, and i'm on my guard now too! All very well for folk who may not be in the line of fire so to speak to comment that people shouldn't get a little annoyed with these people, and yes ,sometimes one does make comments that tar all with the same brush!! crap happens!

S. :(

Spot on Carryon

Yes there was one <_<

If you look at the banners in my pictures you will see that they are all written in the same handwriting.
The Lady that made these banners was actually filmed doing it and it was broadcast on TV, no action was taken against her. WHY ?

Just for the record, all you posters (not many I'm glad to see) who are trying to cancel out my pictures with other pictures Presumably trying to say we are just as bad as them, its just not cutting any ice with me, not even coming close.

Also trying to turn this topic into a race / religion thread and playing on words like were the Muslims British , doesn't matter a toss really.

The original topic was started not to slag off Muslims or to debate weather they should be allowed to live in Brittan.
It was asking why Great Brittan has no backbone, why do they allow this sort of march to take place in the first place.
I think they should have been dragged out the crowd and deported.

To where though Vince ???
Don't let on to anyone that Adelaide is such a good place to live. ;)
And yes Andy i do think that Australia has a lower security threat than Britain at the moment , but for how long is anybodies guess. :(

Arr good question if they were British, :D If not I think you know the answer. ;)