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Title: Mohammed the Teddy Bear
Description: Unbelievable.


lynsteve - December 2, 2007 08:50 AM (GMT)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1811

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PS Had to write it this way, as my other way was politically uncorrect!!

Nick11 - December 2, 2007 10:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (lynsteve @ Dec 2 2007, 05:50 PM)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1811

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PS Had to write it this way, as my other way was politically uncorrect!!

Was reading the bbc website about it .Muslims in England are equally disgusted by it. What a funny world we live in!

gonga - December 3, 2007 12:40 PM (GMT)
does seem a little short sighted of a 'professional' to name a bear in the name of the prophet doesn't it?

Nick11 - December 4, 2007 01:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (gonga @ Dec 3 2007, 09:40 PM)
does seem a little short sighted of a 'professional' to name a bear in the name of the prophet doesn't it?

It wasn't the teachers idea - the kids took a vote. Apparently it was named after the children in her class!

CatWithClaws - December 4, 2007 06:27 AM (GMT)
Should have locked all the kids up! Honestly, fancy letting them off just coz they're six...what IS the world coming to??!!

gonga - December 4, 2007 07:14 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nick11 @ Dec 4 2007, 10:28 AM)
It wasn't the teachers idea - the kids took a vote. Apparently it was named after the children in her class!

isn't the teacher responsible for her pupils?



Anyroad, I think it a much greater scandal that darfur gets less attention currently than a teddy bear and a short sighted teacher from Liverpool (wasn't that a Jimmy Osmond tune?)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/5316306.stm


Nick11 - December 5, 2007 10:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (gonga @ Dec 4 2007, 04:14 PM)
isn't the teacher responsible for her pupils?



Anyroad, I think it a much greater scandal that darfur gets less attention currently than a teddy bear and a short sighted teacher from Liverpool (wasn't that a Jimmy Osmond tune?)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/5316306.stm

Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

gonga - December 6, 2007 07:15 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nick11 @ Dec 6 2007, 07:55 AM)
QUOTE (gonga @ Dec 4 2007, 04:14 PM)
isn't the teacher responsible for her pupils?



Anyroad, I think it a much greater scandal that darfur gets less attention currently than a teddy bear and a short sighted teacher from Liverpool (wasn't that a Jimmy Osmond tune?)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/5316306.stm

Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

Hi Nick11

are you relating hindsight to both the teddy bear and darfur?

Deborah - December 6, 2007 01:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (gonga @ Dec 4 2007, 04:14 PM)
isn't the teacher responsible for her pupils?



yes
true but do we as parents not want our children to have free speech ?

also given that mohammed is the most popular boys name in the uk she may have felt like she was discriminating if she called the doll JOHN

please dont get back to me as i really do not give two :sign53: what you think this is my opinion
Deborah
:xmas:

gonga - December 7, 2007 07:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Deborah @ Dec 6 2007, 10:16 PM)

please dont get back to me as i really do not give two :sign53: what you think this is my opinion
Deborah
:xmas:

merry f :sign53: ing Christmas to you too Mrs ;)

lynsteve - December 7, 2007 08:46 AM (GMT)
Gonga your middle names not Mohammed Darfur is it?

Stevo.

gonga - December 7, 2007 12:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (lynsteve @ Dec 7 2007, 05:46 PM)
Gonga your middle names not Mohammed Darfur is it?

Stevo.

that's Gonga MD to you matey ;)

lynsteve - December 8, 2007 07:30 AM (GMT)

Deborah - December 8, 2007 10:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (gonga @ Dec 7 2007, 04:32 PM)

merry f :sign53: ing Christmas to you too Mrs ;)

hope you have a good one yourself to mate

merry merry christmas
:xmas:

Nick11 - December 9, 2007 02:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (gonga @ Dec 6 2007, 04:15 PM)
QUOTE (Nick11 @ Dec 6 2007, 07:55 AM)
QUOTE (gonga @ Dec 4 2007, 04:14 PM)
isn't the teacher responsible for her pupils?



Anyroad, I think it a much greater scandal that darfur gets less attention currently than a teddy bear and a short sighted teacher from Liverpool (wasn't that a Jimmy Osmond tune?)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/5316306.stm

Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

Hi Nick11

are you relating hindsight to both the teddy bear and darfur?

No I was referring to the teacher.
Have do agree with you about the publicity - it's shameful.

gonga - December 11, 2007 12:05 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nick11 @ Dec 9 2007, 11:47 AM)

No I was referring to the teacher.
Have do agree with you about the publicity - it's shameful.

Yes scandalously shameful i agree,

as for the bear, i just wonder if I would have acted differently at that time had I been the teacher - aside from the media driven 'sensitivity' around religious and faith issues at this time - the bear being called a name which is usually followed by words such as 'peace be upon him' may not have been the best choice - yes it was as reported the initial choice of a pupil...but then if the same child would have suggested jumping off a cliff?

a cultural faux pas it may have been, but a seconds thought would have avoided the subsequent fracas... :loopy:

Nick11 - December 11, 2007 10:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (gonga @ Dec 11 2007, 09:05 PM)
QUOTE (Nick11 @ Dec 9 2007, 11:47 AM)

No I was referring to the teacher.
Have do agree with you about the publicity - it's shameful.

Yes scandalously shameful i agree,

as for the bear, i just wonder if I would have acted differently at that time had I been the teacher - aside from the media driven 'sensitivity' around religious and faith issues at this time - the bear being called a name which is usually followed by words such as 'peace be upon him' may not have been the best choice - yes it was as reported the initial choice of a pupil...but then if the same child would have suggested jumping off a cliff?

a cultural faux pas it may have been, but a seconds thought would have avoided the subsequent fracas... :loopy:

Would she in her wildest dreams imagined the consequences of calling a bear that name - as I said - hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Libby1971 - December 19, 2007 03:16 PM (GMT)
When my children were younger the same task was used in nursery in the UK.

The idea was the class names the teddy, as a class vote to encourage a team environment, the teddy was taken home and, in our case, had a tiny suitcase with a flannel and towel, toothbrush and a diary. Each child in the class took it home and wrote in the diary what the teddy did at their house before it was shared back with the class. Our school was by no means the only one in the area that did the same task and both my girls really looked forward to their turn.

This incident took place at a British school, where the Uk curriculum was followed. How could any teacher following the UK curriculum have foreseen this? It is worth noting that it wasn't the parents who reported the teacher but the school secretary, if UK reports are to be believed. In that teachers shoes, I think I would probably have done the same thing, allowing the kids to choose the name and not even consider that naming teddy after one of the kids would lead to such chaos.

I'm an RE teacher and have lived in the Middle East and I know some Muslims can be sensitive but it still wouldn't have dawned on me that this might be the result.





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