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kellyT - March 10, 2004 09:49 PM (GMT)
Just wondering if you are taking your car?

It seems to be expensive and depends on the age and make.

I have a Citreon Picasso which they do not have in Adelaide but they do have a Citreon dealer. For me it would be expensive to get the car there and then any parts would probably cost a fortune.

Are you all buying Utes.

Kevin

Snappy - March 11, 2004 07:46 AM (GMT)
Kevin

Sorry it's me replying again. <_<

We've been looking into it and have decided that we will take out our car. We have a Kia Sedona exec model diesel which we can not find out in Australia - I'm not saying they aren't there but we haven't come across any in adverts.

We think the amount of money we would lose on it over here if we sold it now would be quite a lot so considering that second hand cars keep their value better in Australia the difference of shipping would be about the same compared to if we sold it - if that makes sense? :loopy: Plus I love my car!

In the UK parts are quite expensive but in Australia Kia cars are more accessible, so the parts are cheaper. I know we still have to go on a percentage of what they cost compared to what you earn but it does still work out cheaper.

It is alot of hassle and there was a thread on here before which I asked a hundred and one questions about it. Some people had good experiences and others had bad expereinces when it comes to importing cars.

My hubbie wants to buy a utes when we get out there as he will need something that goes off road for his paragliding hobby.

Sasha :)

mr mover - March 11, 2004 07:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Snappy @ Mar 11 2004, 04:46 PM)
Kevin

Sorry it's me replying again. <_<

We've been looking into it and have decided that we will take out our car. We have a Kia Sedona exec model diesel which we can not find out in Australia - I'm not saying they aren't there but we haven't come across any in adverts.

We think the amount of money we would lose on it over here if we sold it now would be quite a lot so considering that second hand cars keep their value better in Australia the difference of shipping would be about the same compared to if we sold it - if that makes sense? :loopy: Plus I love my car!

In the UK parts are quite expensive but in Australia Kia cars are more accessible, so the parts are cheaper. I know we still have to go on a percentage of what they cost compared to what you earn but it does still work out cheaper.

It is alot of hassle and there was a thread on here before which I asked a hundred and one questions about it. Some people had good experiences and others had bad expereinces when it comes to importing cars.

My hubbie wants to buy a utes when we get out there as he will need something that goes off road for his paragliding hobby.

Sasha :)

Just some quick points, contact KIA aust to make sure parts are available for your car, the resale value will be zero ,nobody will touch a car that was not sold here,as a new model ,peugot diesel, springs to mind , you could.nt give them away. Also make sure the company who ships your car has an under standing ,of car loading etc, seen some real horrorible efforts, in the last couple of years ,ex UK........MM

Snappy - March 11, 2004 09:23 PM (GMT)
MM (or anyone else :) )

Can I ask what is it about Australians and diesel cars? When we have searched before there seemed to be hardly any cars that were diesel is there a problem with this for some reason?

Sasha :)

rach_red2003 - March 11, 2004 11:07 PM (GMT)
Hi Sasha
There are diesel cars out there (we have a 4x4 diesel) but I don't think it has caught on in quite the same way as uk. However diesel is available at every garage and I think in the next few years it might become more popular. Someone once told me you can't take a petrol car too far out in the bush because some of the aborigines drink the petrol. Sounds far fetched but they swore that was the truth.
all the best
Rach :D

lynsteve - March 11, 2004 11:21 PM (GMT)
To anyone thinking about bringing there cars, firstly what is it going to cost you in taxes and shipping, secondly i may be wrong, but you have to get it inspected to make sure its roadworthy. We knew someone who brought a Mercedes over, cost them a fair bit to get it to Australian requirements. Thirdly will you be able to get the spare parts if required. Fourthly when you decide to sell it, is anyone going to want it????????????????. Has it got air conditioning, you'll want it here. New cars start from around $13,000 plus on road costs upto whatever you want to pay. Have a look at carsguide.com.au. Glad we never brought our Renault out.

Steve and Lynsie :rolleyes:

Andy - March 11, 2004 11:44 PM (GMT)
Gas is a lot cheaper than petrol or diesel.

Lots of gas cars out here

Andy

mr mover - March 12, 2004 10:24 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Snappy @ Mar 12 2004, 06:23 AM)
MM (or anyone else :) )

Can I ask what is it about Australians and diesel cars? When we have searched before there seemed to be hardly any cars that were diesel is there a problem with this for some reason?

Sasha :)

Andy is right with petrol averaging 85c a litre ,gas even cheaper, diesel cars never really took off. diesel is very prominant in 4wds , no spark plugs to get wet, in creek crossings ,avalible every where , a lot of aboriginal communitys have banned petrol vehicles , in an attempt to stop the scourge of petrol sniffing , which is rife amoung young people in some communitys. a very sad part of our society....mm

Snappy - March 12, 2004 10:27 AM (GMT)
So how much cheaper is the gas compared to diesel or petrol? Is there a huge difference in the price of the cars that run on gas?

Sasha :)

mr mover - March 12, 2004 10:42 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Snappy @ Mar 12 2004, 07:27 PM)
So how much cheaper is the gas compared to diesel or petrol? Is there a huge difference in the price of the cars that run on gas?

Sasha :)

you have the option of running on gas or petrol , most systems allow you to switch from gas to petrol , sole gas vehicles are generally taxis , or service vehicles , these dont venture far from the city so gas is always easly avaible. The average price of gas is about 54c a litre but it varies , not bad for what is considered a by product , and used to be burnt off. On country trips you run on petrol {more power] in the city you run on gas [economy]....mm

evorobin - March 14, 2004 11:02 AM (GMT)
Expect to pay about $6-8000 to import your car. You can get secondhand values here

http://www.redbook.com.au/vehiclesearch/default.asp

rach_red2003 - March 14, 2004 12:58 PM (GMT)
Hell Daz here

Sometimes i admit to being a mechanic for my sins so you think it would have been easy for me to get a car here.Had diesels all the time in the uk as i specialise in that area and thought i would buy one here easily here but no such luck.Like the yanks because there fuel is so cheap they seem to insist in making the very most of it and most cars are v6 v8 3-4litre beasts but as i'm a bit of a tight git and would rather convert my money into beer vouchers i bought a '88 pajero 2.5 turbo diesel(all the women have now gone onto the next thread)for $8000.What i will say is this took 2-3 weeks of daily searching and if i had some,much hair pulling.I have never seen so many car lots in my life! plus when you first arrive you have no internet or short bursts and absolutely essential is a car to cover vast distances to get a car!Renting immediately is essential methinks.
It was very stressful but maybe thats cos i knew what i wanted and it wasn't readily available here.I would say(and i will probably get eaten alive for this) but go for japanese lowish cc 1.6 - 2litre or as some other people said get one with gas.Its that or diesel 4x4's and they can be expensive and difficult to find with low kms.Whats the point of these big engined beasts if you can only do 60kmh most of the time i just dont get it.Penis extension methinks, (thought: wait a minute ive got a smoky small engined diesel what does that say.Its ok Daz its the miles per gallon that counts)


I will now go and jump in the large hole i've just dug for myself



DAZ :rolleyes:

mr mover - March 14, 2004 10:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (rach_red2003 @ Mar 14 2004, 09:58 PM)
Hell Daz here

Sometimes i admit to being a mechanic for my sins so you think it would have been easy for me to get a car here.Had diesels all the time in the uk as i specialise in that area and thought i would buy one here easily here but no such luck.Like the yanks because there fuel is so cheap they seem to insist in making the very most of it and most cars are v6 v8 3-4litre beasts but as i'm a bit of a tight git and would rather convert my money into beer vouchers i bought a '88 pajero 2.5 turbo diesel(all the women have now gone onto the next thread)for $8000.What i will say is this took 2-3 weeks of daily searching and if i had some,much hair pulling.I have never seen so many car lots in my life! plus when you first arrive you have no internet or short bursts and absolutely essential is a car to cover vast distances to get a car!Renting immediately is essential methinks.
It was very stressful but maybe thats cos i knew what i wanted and it wasn't readily available here.I would say(and i will probably get eaten alive for this) but go for japanese lowish cc 1.6 - 2litre or as some other people said get one with gas.Its that or diesel 4x4's and they can be expensive and difficult to find with low kms.Whats the point of these big engined beasts if you can only do 60kmh most of the time i just dont get it.Penis extension methinks, (thought: wait a minute ive got a smoky small engined diesel what does that say.Its ok Daz its the miles per gallon that counts)


I will now go and jump in the large hole i've just dug for myself



DAZ :rolleyes:

yes small cars are ok if you want to remain around the city, but once you get over your initial culture shock ,and become more ozzified. You might want to venture out into the great sth australian country side, say a trip to marion bay, over a long weekend, 220km there and 220km back ,a trip which takes 3hrs each way ,and some thing the locals consider a short haul, going up the Port wakefield road in a 2ltr small buzz box can be very daunting ,when a 100ft long road train over takes you at 110kmh. You will understand why people like big 4wds/cars ,the comfort over long distance ,and ability to carry large loads of camping gear,and leave the road trains behind........ ;) ..............mm

rach_red2003 - March 15, 2004 07:15 AM (GMT)
Hello

What i would like to say is even the ozzified people out there would be spending 80-90% of there time tootling around the city where a big engined motor is at its worst mpg wise ,thats a fact.So if your comfortable spending out extra money on fuel for 90% of your time in order to be comfortable for the 10-20% of the time then feel free to.Its another one of those decisions where i think do i work more so i can spend more on transport primarily used for work or do i work less ,spend less on transport and have more time for myself and family.If money isn't a problem then its any easier decision .I personally choose the latter as its comfortable for my situation.


Dont work to hard

DAZ :medium smiley2:

Snappy - March 15, 2004 07:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (rach_red2003 @ Mar 14 2004, 09:58 PM)
Hell Daz here

Sometimes i admit to being a mechanic for my sins so you think it would have been easy for me to get a car here.Had diesels all the time in the uk as i specialise in that area and thought i would buy one here easily here but no such luck.Like the yanks because there fuel is so cheap they seem to insist in making the very most of it and most cars are v6 v8 3-4litre beasts but as i'm a bit of a tight git and would rather convert my money into beer vouchers i bought a '88 pajero 2.5 turbo diesel(all the women have now gone onto the next thread)for $8000.What i will say is this took 2-3 weeks of daily searching and if i had some,much hair pulling.I have never seen so many car lots in my life! plus when you first arrive you have no internet or short bursts and absolutely essential is a car to cover vast distances to get a car!Renting immediately is essential methinks.
It was very stressful but maybe thats cos i knew what i wanted and it wasn't readily available here.I would say(and i will probably get eaten alive for this) but go for japanese lowish cc 1.6 - 2litre or as some other people said get one with gas.Its that or diesel 4x4's and they can be expensive and difficult to find with low kms.Whats the point of these big engined beasts if you can only do 60kmh most of the time i just dont get it.Penis extension methinks, (thought: wait a minute ive got a smoky small engined diesel what does that say.Its ok Daz its the miles per gallon that counts)


I will now go and jump in the large hole i've just dug for myself



DAZ :rolleyes:

Daz what do you think on importing a Kia Sedona diesel - worth it or not? Most people hate Kia's but I have to say it is a lovely car and I would want another one even if we sold this one before getting out to Oz. Hubbie doesn't seem to mind that it would be worthless when we get there as he says we have no plans to sell it.

Sasha :)

PS Daz you have now confirmed what everyone has always thought, that men do compare their cars to their dicks! :lol:

DAZREN - March 15, 2004 08:30 AM (GMT)
Hi I am writing this for Daz as he is cooking the dinner! I don't want to interupt but I shouted out your question and here's his answer!
If it was him he'd work out approx money he'd get back selling it in uk, and the money you would fork out buying a second hand car here. Then the cost to actually ship it here.
The thing is they are right hand drive here but all the speeds here are in kilometres per hour so you might have to change the speedo to get it on the road but he is not 100% sure on this.
They do have Kia's here but not sure about Sedona's, you would be able to get spares no matter but they will take longer if it is not a normal model in this country.
Most people here, I get the feeling don't wish to spend a lot of money on a car when they arrive here but end up spending a lot because it is such a minefield and 2nd hand cars hold their value.
Personally speaking with all the possible hassles and legalities involved we are glad we left our car in uk. After all you have enough to worry about and when you arrive you need transport straight away and you would have to hire a car (expensive!) until yours arrived on the ship.
Hope this helps
Daz can now continue cooking dinner. mmmmmmmm :D

Snappy - March 15, 2004 09:40 AM (GMT)
Thanks for that I will have to do some research before I decide what to do.

Sasha :)

PS Daz cooking dinner?????? Can he teach Roy when we get there? :lol:

lynsteve - March 15, 2004 09:45 AM (GMT)
Whats the Kia worth in the UK. We can then give you ideas on what to buy here in Adelaide.

Steve&Lynsie :)

Snappy - March 15, 2004 09:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (lynsteve @ Mar 15 2004, 06:45 PM)
Whats the Kia worth in the UK. We can then give you ideas on what to buy here in Adelaide.

Steve&Lynsie :)

I think it's around £9,000 now but I keep meaning to buy a copy of the parkers guide just to check.

Sasha :)

Snappy - March 15, 2004 09:53 AM (GMT)
Just found parkers guide on the web it's £8140 . I've just done a search on the link from Evorobin and the closest I can get is a Kia Carnival automatic 2.5i worth $20700 - $24200 so that's £8390 - £9800. Mine is a 2.9i automatic executive style so it has air conditioning, sun roof, tinted windows, leather seats (not too sure how this would be in the heat I have to add!), and loads of extra electric gadgets. Is it worth it? I would like to know what others think especially those in the trade out in Adelaide as this would help me loads. :thumbs up:

Sasha :)

lynsteve - March 15, 2004 10:01 AM (GMT)
Nine thousand pounds times 2.35 equals roughly $21000.
A 2002/03 plate Commodore with air V6 3.8 motor sedan or wagon
A brand new Kia with air and money to spend on a second car !!
A 2003 plate Astra 4 cylinder 1.8 motor
A 1994 Mercedes 230
A 1994 Mercedes 190
A 1994 Beemer
A 2002/03 plate Falcon with air V6 4.0 motor sedan or wagon
A new Hyundai
A decent 4WD
The list goes on and on and on. To be blunt you'd be an idiot to bring it unless it was a collectors car, somehow your Kia is not one is it??

Steve and Lynsie ;)

Snappy - March 15, 2004 10:05 AM (GMT)
Uuuhhh .................No! :o

Roy might be pleased that he could buy a beemer as I flogged his old one just after we were married and he's been moaning ever since!

Sasha :)

Sorry I edited my comments above after your posted your reply. :rolleyes:

lynsteve - March 15, 2004 10:16 AM (GMT)
I must apologise, didn't realise Kias came with all those bits and bobs, do they work ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Steve and Lynsie :bouncing smiles: :bouncing smiles: :bouncing smiles:

Snappy - March 15, 2004 10:25 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (lynsteve @ Mar 15 2004, 07:16 PM)
I must apologise, didn't realise Kias came with all those bits and bobs, do they work ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Steve and Lynsie :bouncing smiles: :bouncing smiles: :bouncing smiles:

You may laugh but we wanted a people carrier and for the same money that we paid for the Kia we could of had a really basic and horrible Ford thing. It is a dream car and so far we have had no problems with it. The engines I believe are Izuzu make so they are pretty sturdy. I have to say it is a lovely car and my furry dice look great in it - only joking :bouncing smiles:

Sasha :)

delboy - March 15, 2004 12:28 PM (GMT)
iv'e got a little yellow van im thinking of shipping over, it does smoke a little bit but i should save money on tyres cos its only got three.
it has automatic air con. when ever you go over a bump the window falls down.
and there is just enough room in the back for 3 blow-up doles.

hope this helps snappy :medium smiley2:

Snappy - March 15, 2004 01:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (delboy1 @ Mar 15 2004, 09:28 PM)
iv'e got a little yellow van im thinking of shipping over, it does smoke a little bit but i should save money on tyres cos its only got three.
it has automatic air con. when ever you go over a bump the window falls down.
and there is just enough room in the back for 3 blow-up doles.

hope this helps snappy :medium smiley2:

Let me guess it IS a classic! :bouncing smiles:

Sasha :)

milton - March 15, 2004 08:06 PM (GMT)
hi sasha
very good answer, nice one .men think more of their cars,than their wifes thats why they give them girlie names haha.
the car I mean

cathy

mr mover - March 15, 2004 10:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (rach_red2003 @ Mar 15 2004, 04:15 PM)
Hello

What i would like to say is even the ozzified people out there would be spending 80-90% of there time tootling around the city where a big engined motor is at its worst mpg wise ,thats a fact.So if your comfortable spending out extra money on fuel for 90% of your time in order to be comfortable for the 10-20% of the time then feel free to.Its another one of those decisions where i think do i work more so i can spend more on transport primarily used for work or do i work less ,spend less on transport and have more time for myself and family.If money isn't a problem then its any easier decision .I personally choose the latter as its comfortable for my situation.


Dont work to hard

DAZ :medium smiley2:

Adelaide has great public transport, you can even save more money. :rolleyes: ...mm

graeme&eileen - March 16, 2004 11:23 AM (GMT)
As evorobin has pointed out I think?You will pay at least 30% tax on importinga car to oz on top of your transport costs.They take the money as a percentage of your cars value on the purchase invoice or if you have no purchase invoice you have to pay for a valueation in adelaide $150 and then pay the tax on that value.After that you have to fill in forms,more dosh,with transport sa ,then have the vehicle inspected by trans sa.An exhaustive and expensive process that I would wish on no one. graeme :sigh:

Snappy - April 14, 2004 07:53 PM (GMT)
Davallen

Here's the other thread about cars for you...as you will read this was before we changed our mind about taking ours...I miss it though :(

Sasha :)

Lee and Alison - April 14, 2004 09:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (kellyT @ Mar 11 2004, 06:49 AM)
Just wondering if you are taking your car?

It seems to be expensive and depends on the age and make.

I have a Citreon Picasso which they do not have in Adelaide but they do have a Citreon dealer. For me it would be expensive to get the car there and then any parts would probably cost a fortune.

Are you all buying Utes.

Kevin

HI,
I dismissed the idea of shipping my bike when i looked at all the red tape involved.
I found this out when i decided i wanted to ship my beautiful green Kawasaki ZX-7R, i've only had it 2 years, and seeing as i've been the only owner i thought it would be worth it (think again).
Firstly you have to apply for permission to import (some fee involved)
Then the fee for shipping (bike would have gone in with furniture)
Then the import duty ( a percentage of the vehicles value)
Then to be inspected by Dotars (transport Dept) (fee involved)
Then an I.D plate to be fitted(to prove it meets Aussie regulations. If not then modifications need to be carried out.(fee involved)
And all this is before you can take it on the road.
Then trying to get vehicle insured (remember it's now an import).
Its all this that made me decide not to bring the bike, i'd probably end up selling it shortly after arriving anyway (losing another bundle) to buy a big hairy ar*ed Harley . :D

Lee

evorobin - April 15, 2004 12:39 AM (GMT)
Thats a pretty fair indicator of the crap you have to go through.

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