the western painted turtle is now 5", the peninsula cooter is 6", and the snapper is 7". the pond isnt in the ground yet, but i am trying to change that. the water quality in the turtle tank collapsed again and i lost the last 3 goldfish and the female convict cichlid that was in there. the only fish that survived was the male convict cichlid.

Sorry about the die off. Turtles are messy which is one reason the water quality is often not good enough for the poor fish in with them. I hope the turtles get into and enjoy their new pond soon!