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Title: Albino Clawed Frog Is Sick!!
Description: She is bloated and turning green!!


Absolute Frog Lover - September 8, 2004 04:03 PM (GMT)
I just bought 2 albino clawed frog youngsters about a month and a half ago. They are only about 2 to 2 1/2" long so far and both now visibly becoming female. Bonnie and Sally. Now Bonnie won't eat and she is turning green as compared to her pale white skin before. She is getting more and more bloated and I don't want to lose her. If anyone has any ideas - I'm open to try anything. Please HELP!!

Robyn - September 8, 2004 05:39 PM (GMT)
It sounds like bloat. Unfortunately, I've never had ACF's (just ADF's) and have not treated bloat before. But, on my page at http://www.fishpondinfo.com/frog4.htm I have links to some frog care sites that include info on both ACF's and bloat. I think I read that they have successfully treated it with a combination of aquarium salt and antibiotics. Sorry I don't have first hand knowledge to share. I hope she recovers!

Absolute Frog Lover - September 9, 2004 02:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Absolute Frog Lover @ Sep 8 2004, 04:03 PM)
I just bought 2 albino clawed frog youngsters about a month and a half ago. They are only about 2 to 2 1/2" long so far and both now visibly becoming female. Bonnie and Sally. Now Bonnie won't eat and she is turning green as compared to her pale white skin before. She is getting more and more bloated and I don't want to lose her. If anyone has any ideas - I'm open to try anything. Please HELP!!

Thank you. I will try that and see. I'll keep you posted!

Absolute Frog Lover - September 16, 2004 03:06 PM (GMT)
[COLOR=blue] :( I am sad to report that my little Bonnie did not survive the bloat. She seemed to be getting better and one day just passed on. Thank you for your advice and I'm sure you'll see more of me.

Robyn - September 16, 2004 03:59 PM (GMT)
I'm so sorry that she died.

Guest - September 28, 2004 01:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Robyn @ Sep 16 2004, 03:59 PM)
I'm so sorry that she died.

wow. you really had a lot to say, busy much??

Robyn - September 28, 2004 02:16 PM (GMT)
Sorry, "Guest." What should I have said? And yes, I'm busy beyond most people's imagination.

Poor little Bonnie deserves to be remembered of course. I have hundreds of animals now and a few die every month like a poor goldfish this morning in my pond. At least one e-mail a day that I get mentions that some poor animal has passed on. While it would be appropriate for me to grieve all day, I have to do the work of 50 people. I basically have 3 full time jobs and only one pays (not much). I haven't had a vacation since 1996. I'm in constant pain. I answer dozens of e-mails every day (at work between work), care for 100's of animals, and do worthless work as a overworked chemist. I have no friends, no personal life, and nothing to live for but the animals. The only thing I have to look forward to is death so maybe that's why it's not as big a deal for me. Sorry. Here is a poem for Bonnie.

Poor little Bonnie was as cute as a button,
When it came to bloodworms, she was quite the glutton.
Alas we will miss her,
We never did kiss her,
But our love for her will live on and on.

Guest - September 30, 2004 01:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Robyn @ Sep 28 2004, 02:16 PM)
Sorry, "Guest." What should I have said? And yes, I'm busy beyond most people's imagination.

Poor little Bonnie deserves to be remembered of course. I have hundreds of animals now and a few die every month like a poor goldfish this morning in my pond. At least one e-mail a day that I get mentions that some poor animal has passed on. While it would be appropriate for me to grieve all day, I have to do the work of 50 people. I basically have 3 full time jobs and only one pays (not much). I haven't had a vacation since 1996. I'm in constant pain. I answer dozens of e-mails every day (at work between work), care for 100's of animals, and do worthless work as a overworked chemist. I have no friends, no personal life, and nothing to live for but the animals. The only thing I have to look forward to is death so maybe that's why it's not as big a deal for me. Sorry. Here is a poem for Bonnie.

Poor little Bonnie was as cute as a button,
When it came to bloodworms, she was quite the glutton.
Alas we will miss her,
We never did kiss her,
But our love for her will live on and on.

well I didn't mean for you to get so bent out of shape. you obviously have some time on your hands. and now ALL your guests will see that you are a morbid, very lonely old woman who did this to herself. sorry all you have to look forward to is death and sorry you don't have friends, whose fault is that by the way??? :ph43r:

binanapop - February 13, 2005 06:26 AM (GMT)
Ouch! That was harsh and really uncalled for. This isn't a counselling service its an advice forum. They should have been thankful for the help. All that person really did was show what a prick they are. :o

Keith. - February 13, 2005 03:06 PM (GMT)
Robyn, I think its great that you live for the animals. You know so much about about them, so why not have 100 of them? LOL How did you get so many, are some from family members. All I have to say is that if you have more animals than you can care for, try giving a few away to responsible owners that you nkow will take care of them. If you dont have much time, some of the animals may suffer from lonliness. I had more animals then I could handle, and I was forced to give some away. I felt really bad about leving them, but in the end they found great homes, and the owners had more money and time than I did, so I knew the animals would be in great care. Dogs,birds,and cats would be hard to give away. But small frogs and snakes are easy to place if you find the right person. Try it. Then you'll have more time for the animals, and yourself. Good luck, and you are a heroine to animals. :D

Robyn - February 13, 2005 04:15 PM (GMT)
If you don't include the hundreds of animals associated with my 4 aquariums and 7 ponds as well as wild animals, then I just have 16 animals. My dog died two weeks ago. I now have 5 cats (3 were strays that appeared on their own), 2 rabbits, 2 guinea pigs, 2 hedgehogs (cousin didn't want them anymore), 1 sailfin lizard, and 4 chickens. How did I get them? Well, of those 16, I, myself, me, bought one, yes just one (my now completely disabled angora rabbit). My mother is an impulse buyer. She gets most of the animals and leaves me with all the work. I "only" spend 35 hours a week on the animals so I have the time if I don't do much else except my official job. I couldn't imagine anyone taking care of the animals as well as I do. I have no intention of getting any more animals. But, I can't stop my mother. If I outlive my parents, then I'll lose the house, land, plants, and animals I've spent my entire life taking care of. So, it's hard to be upbeat knowing I will lose it all. I basically have nothing because I will lose everything. I work constantly but am always reminded by family and co-workers that I'm a loser and nothing belongs to me. Well, I have to go finish vacuuming the entire house and make lunch and clean the pond filter, etc.

Keith - February 14, 2005 03:01 AM (GMT)
Your Mom sounds nice, but the rest of your family sound like a bunch of morons, calling you a loser. I bet they couldnt live a day in your life, you probably work harder then them. Dont give up without a fight. Ask for help from a friend or neighbor, so you wont lose the house. Why would you lose the house anyway? Unless your parents pay for you to live there, then it must be your house if you pay for it. I would get a lawyer if I were you.

Keith - February 14, 2005 03:04 AM (GMT)
Sorry to invade your personal life, but with your knowledge, how come you dont work at a pet store? Mabye they could help you get free pet food if you worked their. Plus you a hard worker, so you would probably get a good position. Just a thought.

Robyn - February 14, 2005 05:57 PM (GMT)
You made me laugh. My parents own the house. I pay them money to cover my bills. I do all the house cleaning and most of the yard work as well as care for all the animals. I did these things not because they told me to but because they refused to. But now, they both have physical and mental problems so they need more and more care from me. Their will leaves me half and my brother half. My brother is married to the most horrible woman in the world. She is Chinese and claimed she needed a green card but even her Chinese family is ashamed of her behavior. My brother (who used to be my only real friend) and his wife hate each other but he won't leave her (low self esteem, abused people get stuck) and in fact they are going to have a baby in April (my only descendant) because she ordered him to do so. I won't go into the gory details but let's just say that this woman is anti-love, anti-forgiveness, and pro-money all the way. She has forbidden my mother and I from ever seeing her kid. She ordered me to give her all my money in order to see the kid which I refused but I did buy hundreds of dollars of baby stuff (they can't "afford" it; he makes three times what I do). She will demand cash for "her" half of everything if I outlive my parents. Our local evil devoloper would pay over a million dollars right now to bulldoze the thousands of plants and animals I've devoted my life to. I'm afraid I'd have to come up with hundreds of thousands of dollars which I can't. I do make more than I would at a pet store though! I did work at an aquarium store for 2 months back in 1996 but was fired for "talking back." In other words I wanted to improve their idiotic way of doing things. They instructed me to sell fish even if it meant lying. I had a masters degree at the time but made just $6 an hour so a lot of kids still in high school were my superiors. Anyway, I've said too much already. People tell me I'm a loser and should move into a tiny, itty bitty apartment alone (all I could afford). But, I'm selfish and spoiled and don't want to give up 5 acres of wildlife and a good size house. And of course, without my "children," I'd have no raison d'etre. Oh, and in case you're thinking some knight in shining armor will rescue me, I'm 32 and still waiting for my first date. Ain't ever gonna happen.

Please don't reply to this thread anymore. My life is too depressing.




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