I understand how images are placed in a forum. Can the same process be used to embed video? I wondered if YouTube could be embedded. I'd like to share some video of my pond. I guess a link could be made to the video, but it would be nice to be able to just embed it in a post. Any ideas?

Don

Good question, I would be interested to do the same some day. Maybe Robyn could answer?

FM3

The forum is HTML enabled so, theoretically, you should be able to embed video if it's HTML code that links to elsewhere. I have never tried though. You can certainly put a link to a youtube video if it won't embed. After you make your youtube video, click on their "add a link" feature or whatever and paste that HTML in a forum post and see what happens.

Well, here is my attempt to see if video will work. If it does, the video is of my pond in January of this year. Enjoy



Don

Ok, that worked--sort of. Using Photobucket, I uploaded the video, then used the option of sharing with a forum, which automatically "copies" it to the clipboard. Then went to this forum and "pasted" to the post. What shows is a .jpg of the first frame of the video. Clicking on the image takes you to Photobucket and plays the video. Nice, but it would be nicer if it played in a window in the post itself. Well, at least the video can be easily shared here.

Don

Trying a direct link to see how it affects speed.

Waterfall on January 27 2008

If you liked the first one, here is another. God, I've got to start going to bed earlier. We're on daylight savings time now, so it is 1:35 AM.

NIce video. How many fish are in that pond?

They stay in one large school and there are roughly 50 fish averaging 4 to 6 inches in length. That varies considerably throughout the season, as they serve as food for the 8 to 10 turtless that are in the pond.

My pond contains roughly 3600 gallons of water, including the filter system, plumbing and waterfall stream. Surface area is roughly 200 square feet including filter and stream.

50 fish of 4 to 6 inch length = 200 to 300 inches of fish.

General rule of thumb for carrying capacity that I use is:
1. One inch of fish for each square foot of surface area
OR
2. One inch of fish for each 5 gallons of water.

Under rule 1 using 200 inches of fish, I have 1 square foot per inch of fish
Under rule 1 using 300 inches of fish, I have .67 square foot per inch of fish

Under rule 2, the volume of 3600 gallons will support 3600/5 inches or 720 inches of fish.

The first rule says, then, that I have too many fish, BUT:

The pond is extremely well oxygenated with a cascading stream and waterfall, good overall circulation (pump is rated at 2400 gallons/hr) and I've not had a fish loss (except to turtle predation) even in the hottest days of the summer. The pump and waterfall run year-round and you can see from the video that the fish are healthy in the winter (the video was taken in January).

The fish are an interesting example of Darwin's "survival of the fittest", as there are large numbers of small fish in the spring (along with an explosion of tadpoles), and by midsummer, only the largest, fastest and most alert of the fish survive the turtles' predation. Quite a few of the small and mid-sized fish fall victim, as well, to dragonfly naiads, predacious diving beetles and frogs. Herons and raccoons don't seem to take to my urban pond. If the fish do get too large, they again fall prey to the turtles, as the turtles are able to nibble at the large fins until the fish are no longer able to escape and finally become dinner.

Don

Don that is what happens when you get OLDER. You have to go to bed earlier :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Tia

I keep trying, but no matter the good intentions, I seem to find something on the internet that tweaks my interest. That's how I get information on concrete, faux bois, and latest info on ponds. I still wake up at 5:30 to 6:00 am, no matter.

don

I think the video idea is cool. My koi Zephyr is doing some cool stuff with the pond floaters in the pond and I would like to catch that on video. They are getting a lot more livelier at feeding time too now that the water temp is 50F. Maybe I will try and see if I can get something cool on video today.

Don, did you find a way to show video without another browser opening?

PG

PG

You have to put videos on another site, just like you do with pictures. If you use Photobucket.com, there is a tighter restriction on length of video than if you use youtube.com. Using Photbucket, however, puts the first frame of the video as a picture within the post, while youtube doesn't. Youtube says that using the embedding tool they have will allow you to put it in a window in a post of a forum, but it just doesn't work with this forum. I had no problem embedding videos on my webspace. The only thing that seems to work is just to put the link to the site where it is stored. There might be something that would work with this forum, but Robyn would have to check with the people that run her forum software.

Don

Thanks Don!

hmmm... it seems the older I get the less I sleep! I will be online 'til 1:00 or so, then up at 6:00 and out to do chores!! Wish I could've been like this in my 20s - :D

I LOVE the videos! I am a little 21st-centuary-challenged. I barely use a digital camera. In fact, I learned today that no matter how clearly you can see it with your eyes, a photo of a 1/2 inch clear fish under 12 inches of water looks alot like the rest of the bottom of the pond :rolleyes:

Lori

Invision Free runs the forum. They don't allow on-site photos (except the avatars) and movies. It makes sense because they're paying for the bandwidth (room for those things which take up a lot of room). They put Google ads on the forum to pay for it and make a profit.

Robyn

Youtube videos can be embedded without using server space. It puts a window in the user's web space or in a post of a forum with the video remaining on youtube and playing from there, just as the photographs that people post within the forum are not on the forum's server but remain on Photobucket or other storage sites. According to youtube, their "embedding option" is supposed to just put a youtube window within a post, but it just doesn't seem to work with this one. Interestingly, videos that are stored in Photobucket put the first frame of the video in the post and by clicking on that frame, it runs the video. The problem with Photobucket is that the length of video that can be stored is very restrictive. If you want to see how youtube should work, look at my webspace, where the videos I have there are stored on youtube and embedded in my webspace as a window. The video itself is on youtube and not stored on the webspace server. I don't know why it doesn't work here. I just thought someone at the provider of the forum service might know if there is a way to make it work.
http://donaldperry.spaces.live.com
Don

Didn't Swampy post a fish feeding video in one of the threads a while back?
I can't find the post now.. :(

Tia

Tia, you are right, she did have a fish feeding video.
I think, though, that we were looking for a way to post a video that plays within the post. One that does not open another browser.
I would prefer it that way myself because once the new window is open, then anybody has free access to view all albums in the photobucket.
Not that I've got photos to hide ... it's just that I use the photobucket for other purposes as well.

One way around that, I suppose, is to create another photobucket account ... which means that one would have to have or create another e-mail account.

PG

PG, did you find Swampy's post? I thought it played in the post, no?

Tia, Is the one you are looking for?

http://z2.invisionfree.com/Fishpondinfo/in...?showtopic=3700

PG

Yep that is it. :) Thanks PG! B)
It is just a link to photobucket then. You guys are looking for something different right?
I haven't posted video before so I couldn't figure out what you guys were talking about. :blink: I have seen posts with the URL's but only one (Swampy's) that had an actual video graphic so that is why I remembered it.

Guys

I've been working on researching this issue with much appreciated help from Robyn, but to no avail. I even joined InvisionFree forum to find out how to do it so that video works within posts. We have tried everything that InvisionFree says should work, but does not. There is also some issue of transition to Zetaboards. I have no idea what that is all about, but that forum says that embedding video from YouTube would be easier in the future. Maybe that transition has something to do with it. I just don't know and can't seem to be able to find out. I've decided to just wait a while and see if something changes after they do whatever "transitioning" is finshed. In the meantime, if you link to videos in Photobucket, the videos will showup in the post as just the first frame of the video, like a photograph, which you can click on and then a new window will open in Photobucket and play the video. I did this with a pond in winter video. If you want to link to YouTube, it just is a regular link that opens another window with the video in YouTube. YouTube's method of embedding works just fine on my Microsoft.live website, but not in this forum, even though YouTube says it should. The difference between Photobucket and YouTube is that Photobucket limits the length of video much more severely than YouTube, but shows the first frame of video in the post, while YouTube shows just as a link, but YouTube also allows you to limit the link to the video to just that video and not other things on your account.

Don

Don,
It sounds like you've put in a good amount of time & effort doing this!
Thank you. It is much appreciated.
:)

PG