My gold fish were spawning Saturday evening and next day one of the males came up missing. He is really MIA. MY best guess is since they were flopping on their sides around the edge of the pond on the surface by the potted plants one of my frogs took advantage of the situation and gobbled him up. :( Although he does not admit to to it. He just sits in his frog house looking at me innocently. <_< No sign of any other predator to suspect. Bad Frog !!!

Sorry to hear about the MIA :(

Sounds like a big frog!! He ate a goldfish that was large enough to spawn?
How wide can an innocent looking frog open its mouth? :o

PG

Hey Froggy, did your missing fish turn up?

I wouldn't be so quick to blame the frog. There are many predators around that could have done it, or perhaps he's still in the pond or jumped out and moved away from the pond. I would check within some 30 feet of the pond to look for him.

Grab the frog and feel him up, seriosly you can feel anything they ate by gently touching him. I dont put baby turtles in my pond, bullfrog ate him that made random appearence at pond, could feel turtle in him. i squeezed frog and got turtle out, frog lived, and somehow turtle was alive, still have both, frog came out of hibernation this month O.o

FM3 dont do it derrick will never let you live that one down!(or me)

That is a Big frog my lord (if it was a frog). Iwould check around see if it was a jumper. The grass is not always greener on the other side! ;) (well not for fish) You would be amazed where they hide. have your drudged the bottom yet? I found one of mine last year on the bottom GOOD LUCK I hope he is just playing hide and seek

C2

When I was still teaching, I had a large bullfrog in my classroom that we called Jabba the Hut. He loved to eat large goldfish, but his favorite was whole, live, adult white mice. We'd put a mouse on his floating island and Jabba would immediately snap it up in one quick movement, leaving only the tail hanging out, then jump into the water, where he would gulp it down. It is absolutely amazing how big a bite a bullfrog takes. Jabba lived in our classroom for almost ten years before passing on to froggy paradise.

Don

So while most people keep a cat around to get rid of mice, Don keeps his trusty giant bullfrog! LOL...the kids must have LOVED that!

Wow! And here I thought my whole life that frogs just ate flies! That is truly disgusting although somewhat interesting. You guys remember in grade 8-10 when you had to dissect stuff in science class? Well I refused each year and every year my Mom and Dad had to go to the school and have a meeting with the Science teacher and the principle so I didn't have to do it. I didn't do the fish, cow's eyeball or the frog! Everyone used to get SO MAD at me but seriously I would rather die than do that stuff. It was so bad I used to have to take the "dissect" day off cause I refused to even go to school that day. I thought Don would find this funny!

I was in a slightly different situation when it came to dissection. I did a lot of that as I have a master's degree in biology. I got so used to doing that kind of thing that I even ate BIG MACS while I was doing my lab work late at night. When I started teaching, though, I thoght that most dissections at jr high level were just hack jobs with frogs parts being used to gross out other kids. I was also opposed to wasting animal life for such a trivial activity that taught little to the kids, so I used computer technology to do virtual dissections. There's a good one online called "The Virtual Frog". The use of technology overcame the "gross" aspect for students who didn't want to do the real thing and also gave me an opportunity to teach kids something about not destroying life for trivial reasons and to teach about the jeopardy that amphibians today find themselve. Amphibians are having difficulty surviving in many areas and the leopard frog (Rana pipiens is especially declining. That's the spotted, green one that is used in many schools for dissection.

Don

Don, did you happen to catch the hour long program on animal plant which was all about frogs. They covered so many area's of the world and types of frogs... it was really amaizing. Frogs that live under rocks without water, one off spring that rides on the parents back untill it can survive on it's own. Frogs that leap from trees and glide to the next tree. At the end of the program they explained that a major cause of the ongoing frog extintions is a fungus that has, they believe, been worsened by the depletion of the ozone as well as the ongoing loss of habitat.

FM3

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No, I didn't, unfortunately. Do you recall the name of the program? I can watch for reruns or see if it is added to the "On Demand" list in the future.

Dpn

I applaud you Don for the virtual dissection! I WISH you were my teacher!! That is very humane. You just got some extra points in my book, LOL ;)

Don,last night could not find where they are re-running that program. Don't know the specific name other than it was exclusivly about frogs. Being a science guy if you subsribe to Popular Science look in the January issue for a short article about how the U of Pennsylvania scientist are in the clinical trials as I write this on using a compound derived from frog skin that has been found to be 100% effective in killing the lethal strains of drug resistant staph infections that have killed more people than AIDs since 2005. What's even better about this compound is the bacteria has little chance of acquiring resistance to this compound. Save the frogs of the world. Maybe some day they will save us in return. :P

Fm3

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Thanks!

Don