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Title: Water Hardness And Ph
Description: Distilled vs. tap water


Athena - May 22, 2004 11:22 PM (GMT)
I recently bought my first aquarium. It is 10 gallons and is currently on day 10 of the cycle. I bought 3 danios as starter fish. 2 are pearl and 1 is leopard. Plus I have one Amazon Sword in the tank. I figured I better start testing the water, so I bought some strips. My water is very hard (300ppm) Very high alkalinity (300ppm) with a pH of 8.4. Nitrate 40ppm and Nitrite 10ppm. (The test strip didn't test for ammonia and I didn't think about that until I got home).

The fish definately look stressed. One pearl danio was swimming frantically upside down and sideways, (he wound up dying). I did a 20% water change using 1 gallon of distilled and 1 gallon of tap with dechlorinator. They seem to be a little happier. Should I start using distilled water only? Should I do a bigger water change (ie 50%) or would the drastic change in hardness kill the fish? Should I wait another week to do the change? I've read that I should not try and mess with the pH at all! Should I get another danio to replace the dead one? Would he be able to make it with such high nitrite levels or should I wait until the nitrites begin to decline?

Sorry so many questions, but I am loving this hobby and want my fish to have the best environment possible!

Michelle

AquariumFishGuy - May 22, 2004 11:47 PM (GMT)
Your test strips have failed you. After only 10 days, you shouldn't see any Nitrates... and nitrites after this time... well, thats even debatable. The only thing you should have showing is ammonia. And ammonia is whats most deadly. You can't be cycling an aquarium and NOT have ammonia.

I always recommend fishless cycling an aquarium. Its easier, takes less time, and most importantly, no fish are harmed. Heres some links of cycling the aquarium:

Fishless Cycling

Fishless Cycling 2

Robyn - May 23, 2004 12:03 AM (GMT)
Some tap water comes from the tap with nitrate and/or nitrite in it. I would check your water straight from the tap with the test kits first to see if it's there or not. I think it is possible to see nitrite after 10 days but probably not nitrate. Nitrate is more commonly found in tap water especially if it gets agricultural runoff. It's also possible the test kit is faulty. Most test kits are not very good. Did the test use dry pills, liquid, or dip sticks. I'm a chemist and can tell you that some are very hard to read and some are can go bad if it's not new. For some water chemistry information and tank cycling, see http://www.fishpondinfo.com/chem.htm
I'm blessed with soft, moderate pH water which danios like. You can continue to mix distilled with tap water or spring water with tap water. I don't think you have to go to 100% spring water (100% distilled will kill almost all fish as it's devoid of any anions or cations; sorry, I'm a chemist). If your water is that bad, a reverse osmosis system which is very expensive might actually save you money over time than buying bottled water. But, a 10 gallon is not that big so probably not. I would stay with water changes in the 20-25% range if you're changing with water of different chemistry than what's in there. You don't want to change pH or hardness too quickly. I usually say to try to get fish that like the water you have from the tap instead of trying to fix it. There are lots of hard water loving fish out there. Danios aren't one of them though. Until things are under control, I wouldn't get any more fish. You'll find that each of us aquarists has our own ideas and sometimes all of them are right and work! Hope we didn't confuse you too much.




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