As many of us know EotG rule for warriors is pretty fubared (e.g. if a warshrine is on the table champions get the rule, but RAW they can't roll on the table).

Is the simplist thing to do with the EotG rule is treat it as an extension to the challenges rule. In challenges champions count as characters, and this resolves may of the conflicts that are present in the rules (e.g. your champions will now actually benefit from a warshrine being on the table).

Seeing as how self-contradictory the rules for EotG are, is this an acceptable, amicable solution, or is this 'overpowered'?

EotG table is a bit of a dog's breakfast in terms of rules, but I think they need to clarify it to just follow what seems like the original intent. Make it work when champions are killed and it becomes something decent rather than just a drawback on character and make it so champions can roll on it if they kill a champion/character in an army that has a warshrine.

The champions thing seems like what Phil Kelly wanted from how he played it, and it's needed just to let the table mean something in games. And until people dissected the rule, I'm pretty sure most everyone assumed champions were allowed to roll when the warshrine was there, since that seems to be the intent.

So yes....I agree with your view on things. That could also make chosen champions pretty hot depending on what magic item they took.

Daftgor while your solution sounds nice and in my opinion would be more fun it's just not what the rules indicate.

I suspect this will not be changed in the FAQ/erratta as EoTG would require a substantive rewrite to make it as clear as it should be.

While GW will errata things (and this would be an errata = rules rewrite not an FAQ) they aren't likely to change something as big as this IMO.

I don't know about that gjnoronh, GW errata can be rather unpredictable. As an example, we 'herd' beastmens faq would have a raiders errata in it... turns out not 4- >5 as expected, but instead mob-> raiders.

I really hope they sort this out properly; at the moment warshrine + champions rule does nothing, when it is clearly meant to! This is why I suggest putting fingers in ears and twisting the rules into something that makes sense.

Yup....think about when GW has their confusing FAQ answers. I can see it now.

"Because champions follow the rules for characters in challenges, you can count champions as characters for the purpose of the Eye of the Gods table."

This would deal with all the ambiguity, and likely lead to confusion in other challenge related items. AKA....a perfect GW FAQ. :P

If they do this I officially bagsie the first rediculous question on the FAQ answer:

"If my champion is in an ongoing challenge, can I cast bear's anger on it as it currently counts as a character?"

if you hadnt noticed now GW likes to go raw with chaos faq's but not with other armies, if they didnt give old chaos knights frenzied steeds they sure as hell ant going to give them eye of the gods rolls for killing champions. After all that is a very over powerful rule that might break the game, hell, i could roll stupidity for kilingl a unit champion!

What are those kind of logics? :lol: That was a couple of years ago, and Phil Kelly didn´t write that FAQ I am pretty sure of. :)

So far we've never had any problems with this in our gaming group, as soon as a character is killed (yes, champions are characters in challenges) we get to roll on the table. It has worked the way it's supposed to, with warshrines champions get to roll on it as well, not problems there.
It must be annoying to have so many RAW-players out there, what do they argue for? That a warshrine can't make a champion roll on the table when it clearly says in the rules that they can? God, I hate those kinda people...

well if phil kelly writes the faq the woc book im sure he will find all sorts of ways to nerf the book such as necrotic phylactrey dosnt work against daemonic lore of nurgle, mind you the logic behind the faq certainly suggests he wrote it ;) I dont think it matter who writes the thing, them seem to like giving us answers that make no sense *points to beasts herds ranking up 4 wide*

That´s also Gavs or Allesios work, not Phils! :lol:

They get a roll if they kill an enemy character. Just not if they kill an enemy unit champion.

IMO the EotG's table is straightforward and simple but since Warseer hosts the sick and the lame, people have done everything they can to make it complicated.

I agree with popisdead the larger the forum gets the lower the level of discourse seems to go.

IMO it's perfectly simple and they get to roll when they kill a character (champion included) or a large target.
If they don't get the bonus from a champion then they shouldn't be forced to issue challanges to a champion (I think those rules were meant to act together).

Flogger that's definitely not what the rules say.

They may be what we'd like them to say but NOT what they say.

Agreed. As much as I think the rule sucks, I am really against what it seems is a trend of trying really hard to make the rules fit into what you want them to be.

Sorry for trying to make the rules simpler *giggles*