Can you guys help ,e. I have been playing Kholek Suneater for a while in a Beast list and people keep telling me that he, as a character, can not take table quarters. When I ask where this is in the rules people say 'its in there' - not much help.

Now I have read the sections on VP, monster and characters but can find no such rule. May be I am going senile but can anyone help me with spotting it. Specific reference and page numbers would help..

Thanks awfully

Can't help you with the actual question (no rulebook at work), but what is Suneater doing in a beast list?

Aslong as something is unit strenght 5+ anything claims table quaters i believe.

Here copied straight from le rule book!

I know in 3rd and 4th edition 40k characters couldn't claim table corners, but in fantasy there is no such rule, the only restriction is the unit must be US5 or above (so most characters are excluded by default, but dragon riders, ones riding chariots, things like kholek etc can do so).

Actually its a WoC list I just use Suneaster as a Lord and Throgg as Hero and fill the rest with trolls, hounds , Dragon Ogres and Giants. Not won much but its been great fun. Problem is that so few units - 38 at 2.5K and 15 of them are dogs, leads me to the problem I am having.

Suneater is really hard to kill so he is usually left on the board but people keep telling me he can't claim quarters. One of these 'everyone knows that rule' but when you ask where it is no one can tell you

Exactly what I found, just wondered if anyone knows different.

I think in last edition you needed at least 5 models per unit to capture a quarter. I still get caught up with the rules pretty often aswell.

If they can't show you the rule, they lose the argument - this "everybody knows that rule" and "it's in the rulebook" stuff is annoying, particularly as the rule they are talking about is in 40k or the last edition of WHFB. I had a guy putting his fast cavalry in a very advantageous snake formation in a recent game. He was sure he could do that, but was not too happy that he couldn't find the rule for it in the 7th ed. BRB when I asked him about it. It's in the 6th ed.

Cheers.

I actually didn't know that was illegal...

Honestly, they need to come up with a 2nd rule book that has nothing but listings of changes from 6th. Even for someone with an insane attention span, reading through a rulebook where 90% of the stuff is the same so you can find the 10% thats different (and I think thats being generous) isn't a reasonable waste of time. They'd make tons of money off it as well IMO, since the market who'd pick it over the 7th ed rulebook is small but likely to buy it.

Its the problem with this style of rule changes. When people know all the rules, and a new edition comes up where you can learn all the commonly-relavant changes in minutes, you won't find everything.

Although yes, its funny how the entire warhammer community can think something untrue until someone shows them different. Such as the "different base size in units" thing where I imagine most people don't know you get rank bonuses as normally based on an errata.

Agreed Daggoth, they really need a complete list of version changes. The guy I was playing was snaking in good faith, but it's just nowhere in the 7th ed. I'm sure it'll be back in the 8th, to confuse us all :blink:

The thing is, the guy I was playing against has been playing WHFB since the 80's, while I've been playing since the 6th ed. The lack of the sort of edition change summary you mention meant that I knew the rules better than a much more experienced player, which is a problem with system.

Cheers.