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Tarbh - September 1, 2009 05:20 PM (GMT)
I've got some spare points!
I want to give my beastlord a biting blade
would this be a biting blade great weapon (which he's got)??
or are the magic weapons hand weapons?

grupax - September 1, 2009 05:37 PM (GMT)
the latter I'm afraid, so unless you'r up against forest spirits or etherials, i'd stick with the great weapon.

Kawazu - September 1, 2009 05:41 PM (GMT)
it's better to buy another ungor
and magical weapons never add their bonuses to mundane counterparts ;)

Stavrogin - September 1, 2009 07:04 PM (GMT)
Also if he buys a magical weapon he MUST use magical and not mundane one.
And-there is no reason giving beastlord -3 to AS when with GW he has -4.

decker_cky - September 1, 2009 07:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Stavrogin @ Sep 1 2009, 12:04 PM)
Also if he buys a magical weapon he MUST use magical and not mundane one.
And-there is no reason giving beastlord -3 to AS when with GW he has -4.

Magic attacks? But yeah...biting blade is kind of bottom of the barrel in terms of choices.

daftgor - September 1, 2009 09:57 PM (GMT)
magic weapons generally don't even count as hand weapons.

This means you'll lose the hand weapon + shield bonus if you use a biting blade.

I think biting blade is only really worth it on characters that can't take shields (our BSBs) or are mounted (doesn't really apply to beastmen, except for beast lord on chariot).

Stavrogin - September 2, 2009 06:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (decker_cky @ Sep 1 2009, 08:13 PM)
QUOTE (Stavrogin @ Sep 1 2009, 12:04 PM)
Also if he buys a magical weapon he MUST use magical and not mundane one.
And-there is no reason giving beastlord -3 to AS when with GW he has -4.

Magic attacks? But yeah...biting blade is kind of bottom of the barrel in terms of choices.

Truly a bottom of the barrel.

Only army that often uses bitting blade are VC (bitting blade is 5pts and-yeah, i lead the undead bastards too) who are practically only ones (i do not know for non-VC ethereals) against you are going to need magic weapons.

But still, if you lose S7 (wounds most things in game on 2's) attacks for S5 (wounds most thing on 3's. lords on 4's) just so you could fight ethereals, that only pays against ethereal heavy lists which you wont see often.



Tarbh - September 2, 2009 04:49 PM (GMT)
Right won't use that then.....
I would use the points for ungors....but.
I'd have to actually buy (really really buy) a whole new regiment which probably ain;t going to happen.

Bravo-52 - September 3, 2009 05:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tarbh @ Sep 2 2009, 04:49 PM)
Right won't use that then.....
I would use the points for ungors....but.
I'd have to actually buy (really really buy) a whole new regiment which probably ain;t going to happen.

If all you need are ungors you can go to e-bay and search for ungor bits and buy only ungors instead of having to shell for the whole regiment. I think there is a guy in e-bay Canada that sells ungors in bits, check them out.

mrtn - September 3, 2009 08:34 AM (GMT)
Or you can be creative and convert any extra goblin or skaven you have lying around. Especially if you only need mister "Last one in the herd, first to be removed from shooting".

Tarbh - September 4, 2009 04:55 PM (GMT)
ooh I'm a gor!
thanks for the tips. I think a skaveny ungor might be quite fun

khorne worny - September 4, 2009 09:18 PM (GMT)
biting blade is IMO quite a bad weapon. The only magical weapons we have that are any worth taking and it depends on the type character you have what you use him for. The magic weapons I find any use are:

Sword Might - gives extra strength and magical attacks so quite nice against ethral and still allows you have a sheild.

Slaughterers Blade - Same as SoM but its a GW so you gain +1S over the SoM but lose some defence. But on a plus side you also get a nice chance get wounds back.

Thats it really other wise its normal GWs all the way.

Stavrogin - September 4, 2009 10:09 PM (GMT)
I'll have to disagree with your oppinion that Beast only usefull weapons are SoM and Slaughterer.

All of our weapons are good, but most are very specialized.

Well, with the exception of Skultar, which is just stupid, making him 5-10 pts more expensive and giving him killing blow would fix that.

Example-bonecrusher mace is excellent against daemons/ogres and everything else that relies on toughness to save him and does not have AS-just take it and let the giant hunting begin. :D

On the other hand if heavy cavalry makes you problem-just take great fang and start killing those heavily protected Knights of Chaos/Inner circle. :D

There is always a use for weapon, just some of them are overused and some are because of their specific uses often forgotten.

Dont take me wrong, i know that Slaughterer is "a must" and that SoM is great weapon (mine most used weapon with VC) just, it felt a bit unfair to say that there is no use for other weapons.

khorne worny - September 4, 2009 10:14 PM (GMT)
Sorry bout that il be honest im drinking at the moment and I completely forgot about the Great Fang which I agree is very nice on a BeastLord or DoomBull, but I disagree with the bonecrusher mace just never found it very useful. I also quite like the black maul yes might be slightly over priced but I feel a +2S with out the drawbacks of a GW and frenzy are right up my street.



Edit: added the black maul

gjnoronh - September 6, 2009 03:29 PM (GMT)
my ungors are night goblins with a head swap. Works fine.


BeastsBookorNot - September 6, 2009 06:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Stavrogin @ Sep 4 2009, 10:09 PM)
I'll have to disagree with your oppinion that Beast only usefull weapons are SoM and Slaughterer.

All of our weapons are good, but most are very specialized.

Well, with the exception of Skultar, which is just stupid, making him 5-10 pts more expensive and giving him killing blow would fix that.

Example-bonecrusher mace is excellent against daemons/ogres and everything else that relies on toughness to save him and does not have AS-just take it and let the giant hunting begin. :D

On the other hand if heavy cavalry makes you problem-just take great fang and start killing those heavily protected Knights of Chaos/Inner circle. :D

There is always a use for weapon, just some of them are overused and some are because of their specific uses often forgotten.

Dont take me wrong, i know that Slaughterer is "a must" and that SoM is great weapon (mine most used weapon with VC) just, it felt a bit unfair to say that there is no use for other weapons.

my only issue with the SB is that its really only good on the second round of combat, since if you charge, you won't get back any wounds because they haven't been dealt yet, if you are charged, your prolly not going to survive with only 3 wounds anyways

Grarrzag - September 7, 2009 01:13 AM (GMT)
The SB is a magical great weapon with an added bonus for those "Just in case moments", it's good if your beastlord got hit by a template weapon or shot at and got wounded for some reason, that way there once you charge into combat you make your wounds back.

snowblizz - September 7, 2009 05:49 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Grarrzag @ Sep 7 2009, 01:13 AM)
The SB is a magical great weapon with an added bonus for those "Just in case moments", it's good if your beastlord got hit by a template weapon or shot at and got wounded for some reason, that way there once you charge into combat you make your wounds back.

And let's not forget those pesky Assassins or ASF HEs. It's not too unlikely that you'll survive their attacks and can then replenish wounds.

Still... I see this weapon most often on Doombulls, which incidentally are more common as a choice of general anyway.

Nethrag - September 9, 2009 01:22 PM (GMT)
My nurgle beastlord quite likes the slaughterers blade too. can't often find the points in 2k for it but he'd take it if he could.

Bishop - September 26, 2009 02:30 PM (GMT)
When you have 4 wounds... the Slaughters blade makes more sense.

As for lesser magic weapons... other then vs. Ethereals or Wood Elves (who still lose their Ward saves vs Magical attacks)... it'd probably be better to just stick with a Great Weapon.




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