My first time out with a 7th edition WOC list .I'v gone for a a heavy magic list with some heavy hitters.Had to add chosen just because there cool even though a unit of 20 mauraders will do the same job.
Fields of blood is looking at 70 players from around New Zealand and a few Aussies from across the ditch are coming over.I have a grudge match with a bloke from Auckland using woodies which i'm really looking forward too.



Sorcerer lord (235) Level 4(35) Mark of Tz (20) Disk of Tz (20) Collar of Khorne (25) Dispel Scroll (25) Dispel Scroll (25) Enchanted Shield (15)

Exalted Champion (110) Mark of Tz (10) Disk of Tz (20) Flail (4) Shield (5) BSB (25)Golden Eye of Tz(25) Blood Curdling Roar (20)

Chaos Sorcerer (85) Mark of Tz(20) Chaos Steed(16) Rod Of Torment (45)

Chaos Sorcerer (85) Mark of Nurgle (20) Chaos Steed (16) Infernal Puppet
(35)

15 Marauders (60) Mark Of Slannesh (10) Flail (15) Musician (4)

5 Marauder Horsemen (65) mark of Slannesh (10) Flail (10) Shield (5)

5 Marauder Horsemen (65) mark of Slannesh (10) Flail (10) Shield (5)

5 Chaos Hounds (30)

6 Knights of Chaos (240) Mark of Tz (20)

5 Knights of Chaos (200) Mark of Slannesh (10)Standard (20)

1 Chariots of Chaos (120) Mark of Khorne (30)

15 Chosen (270) Mark of Slannesh (10) Shield (15) Full Command (50) Rapturous Banner (20) Favor of the Gods (5)


You can get the player pack from here if your interested in seeing how NZ tornies are run

http://www.irresistibleforce.com.au/catalo...CookieSupport=1

Should do well enough. I'm assuming that the shields on the horsemen are for looks rather than efficiency, since they can't be used at the same time as the flails, while light armour is useful all the time.

yea correct.I would love for them not to have a shield but i'm not cutting my dollie up for that

Depends on how much of a wysywig stickler the TO is but I think most folks wouldn't mind you calling it light armor despite the shields

How did you put Favour of the Gods on the Chosen unit? I thought that was an Enchanted item that only characters could take.

You should put the Mark of Nurgle on the Chaos Knight units. Tzeentch is a cheap 6+ ward save but Nurgle is better. Also your Chosen Warriors would be better off being either Khorne or Nurlge. Frenzy would make the unit a beast in close combat and be immune to pyschology. If you don't think you can handle frenzy then take Nurgle. -1 to be shot at and -1 weapon skill for the enemy is huge.

Those are just some suggestions. Take them with a grain of salt.

Chosen unit champs can take a magic item up to 25 points.

I decided given the increased cost of commands I was better off with regular chaos warriors and putting a character with favor in it (only useful for warshrine buffs but still a nice points saving combo)

Ahh, indeed you can give unit champs magic items. I assumed it was only magic weapons. My unit champ for my Blood Knights is only allowed magic weapons. That'll teach me to read more carefully.

Slaanesh is perfect on chosen. You want to be able to handle them and not to run VS terror. it is cheap and awsome! I would prefer 3+ ward vs shooting > collar but that is really up to you. Marauders would not make the same thing as the warriors. Try to get points for a BSB for your discrider and the list looks solid. The re-roll for your chosen is almost a must when facing something nasty (few things are nastier then chosen but you get the point)
re-roll Rapt standard is almost unbreakable.

I would skip standard on knights since it makes the unit worth 100 more VP in CC. get an musician for extra rally instead.

And don't forget that chariots have free pivot so always turn the rear towards the enemy :D Till they are out of diverters

For sure but my Tz knights are wayyyy better painted than my nurgle ones

Maybe but Slannesh means no running away from a stupid panic test and a fear/terror tests.So far with my chosen in play testing with slannesh have not been defeated even when the odds arn't looking good.They make a very good bunker for my two lv1 casters and with a the little nugle/chosen champ combo going on the unit can hold up big enemy killer heros.

Yea but beasts cower is a spell used alot against TZ disk riders.This way my Gateway caster is safe from that spell and has a +5 save

Totally true,but i have a very nicely painted unit standard and i'll be damed if i'm not going to use him

I agree turn the chariots around. I use to run my Flesh Hounds backwards in the 6th edition. Players thought it was wierd but I knew how easy it was for them to go screaming off into la la land chasing some crappy diversion unit.

Well, thats what the horsemen are for, and you can just run the Chariot behind other stuff for the first turn or so...

I'm not a big fan of the Gateway Caster style of play but other than that the army looks pretty good and challenging, Warpmaster. I think you might regret no BSB a few times but thems the breaks.

You've already submitted it at this point, but honestly you could get away with having shields on models without buying them. Noone would have an issue with that... Same with the banners but you might find them quite useful at times anyway. I know I did when I was trialling some WoC armies.

I wish you some luck, but slightly less than me ;)

You need to embrace the bomb ;)

BSB is on the second hero ;)

Nurgle is in no way better than tzeentch, and is often more expensive.

Vs shooting. They are exactly the same vs things which roll to hit (-1 to hit means 1/6 don't hit that would've hit where as the tzeentch mark saves 1/6 of the wounds caused). Vs things that don't roll to hit, the Tz mark is obv better.
Overall Tz is equal to or better in every situation.

In combat. It's the same except for the fact that it's even more skewed in Tz favour since the -1WS for the enemy is only when they're hitting you (not when your hitting them thanks to the weird FAQ answer) AND the fact that it might not even make a difference to the number needed.

Basically, nurgle "sometimes" saves you from 1/6 hits.
Tzeentch always does.

Nethrag, -1 to hit doesn't equal 1/6 miss, unless you hit on a 1+. In most instances it will mean that the hits will be reduced by 33% (if they hit on a 4+) or 50% (if 5+).

You are of course right. I can only think I was having a "moment".

Nurgle comes up better against shooting (or atleast shooting which requires a to hit roll) (so not against the majority of warmachines). Not massively ahead, but still def ahead.

However I still think nurgle isn't as good as Tz overall, it does nothing vs auto hit shooting or magic for one but also it only has an effect in combat (with normal warriors) at all if your opponent is WS 6 or WS 3. The vast majority of opponents (WS 4 and 5) will still just need 4's to hit you.
When the mark allowed you to hit WS5 opponents on 3's then I think there was a definite advantage to nurgle, now I think Tz has overtaken it for the better overall defensive mark.
Plus it's cheaper.

You may be right. Also, in a tournament environment, a Blasted standard on the Tz knights give them a nice 4+ ward save against those pesky cannons/bolt throwers.

Well its all ahead full,catch a flight to Auckland this evening at 6:30 and will be drinking beer with Doom Duck by 8.

I have packed my camera this time so will take some shots at the event

Good Luck my friend. I shall see you tomorrow. Don't drink too much ;)

You too chief

See you over here.

I'll be playing the VC with the green zombies.

I'll be the guy with the pretty pink daemons getting a lesson in how to game by one of the top 10 players in Australia :D

Only a very secure bloodletter wears pink. :P

Good luck to all of you guys! We wait for pics and reports :)

Well sorry i'v been a bit late with any more info.Been busy since i got back from FOB.

Im writting a bit of run down on how things went and will have that posted up after the weekend.In the mean time heres some video and pics of the event

http://www.cityguard.co.nz/forum/index.php...g19723.html#new