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elysia
  Posted: Nov 24 2006, 09:21 AM


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I was scanning thru' the threads and realised there is no specific one devoted for the best friends in the entire JE. Like how can!? laugh.gif So here I am to share some "love".

I shall save the translations of a few cross talk articles they have for next time. I think some of you have read them before anyway.

Pictures speak louder than words...

NxK in action...
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Note their hands!

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Nagase just plants kisses on Kochan so naturally...

The rest are just some photos I bought over these years...
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More to come.. or feel free to share yours!

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Posted: Nov 24 2006, 10:01 AM


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they're so cute together. The one where Koichi's looking up at Nagase makes him look like a little kid with an adult lol and I always love when Koichi climbs up on him like in the last one.
Thanks for making a topic to show their love and the pix ^-^


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Posted: Nov 24 2006, 08:14 PM


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lol hello elysia wink.gif welcome to this forum - and pardon if i giggle a bit that you'll start this topic because i know you like them so much! thanks for putting up the pictures AND the animated gifs tongue.gif koichi really likes tall guys tongue.gif
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Posted: Nov 25 2006, 04:58 AM


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This photo is supposed to have Junichi next to Koichi but it got cut off. crying3.gif

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Posted: Nov 25 2006, 05:22 AM


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Thanks for sharing elysia. biggrin.gif They make such a cute couple. I love how Nagase kisses Koichi on the head. love7.gif


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Posted: Nov 25 2006, 06:26 PM


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A friendship story of 2 guys who spent their youth together.
"We had times when we talk about matters of the heart too"

Nagase Tomoya x Domoto Koichi

Finally the friendship talk is being realised! The relationship of the two started before the forming of TOKIO and KinKi Kids. Don't we often encounter this in class? Although there are many friends in the class, somehow there will be one person who will attract you to him like a magnet? When you finally realised it, you have been together all the time, playing, discussing about troubles and girls... The relationship between male friends that will make people jealous to a certain extent. Well, this time taking off the "idol" masks, let's have them to talk about each other. Nagase x Koichi "real voice" talk.

During the cold winter times, we entered the vinyl pool and everyone started to "backdrop" each other. (*Note: "backdrop" -- a pro-wrestling term. The action of carrying each other and throwing off the back)

---- (the 2 who will say nonsense to each other during make-up, during photoshoot) You two are really on good terms~
N: Really bad. The worst. (smile)
K: We always fight with each other. (smile)
N: I was really angry at you from a long time ago.
K: Me too.

---- Do you still remember how you first met?
N: Can't remember (flatly)
K: Oii! (suddenly rebutting)
N: But I entered the jimusho earlier. When I was 11. Thereafter 1 year later, Koichi entered.
K: I was in Pri. 6 that time. We played game at the very first time we met.
N: You are lying, I can't remember at all. But I remember we entered the pool together.
K: The "pool" incident happened very much later. It was like 1 year later after we met.
N: Really?
K: Hey, the baseball game.
N: Ahhh... Famicon right. When we "pakki-n" hit and one will do the "bo-n" defence right?
K: With your kind of explanation, the readers won't understand lah. (smile)
N: Who won at that time?
K: I didn't remember until that extent. (smile)


---- What is it about entering the pool together?
N: That was what was popular at that time. When we were staying at that dorm, we would place a vinyl pool for baby use at the veranda, and everyone will enter it with swimwear.
K: Even when it was during the cold winter. (smile) Hot water was poured in and it was like open air hot spring.
N: But in the midst, it became a "backdrop" event.
K: If you get "backdrop" by Nagase, it's really painful. (smile)
N: At that time, we were neither TOKIO nor KinKi right.
K: Yah.

---- So it means there is a possibility you two may form the same group?
K: No, I didn't have that premonition at all. To me, somehow if it's work, I think I will be with Tsuyoshi. Tsuyoshi and I were in Kansai in the first place anyway. And Nagase at that time was usually working with Inohara-kun (V6).
N: Yes. There is a plan to put me, Inohara-kun and another 2 boys in the same group. But soon I was put in TOKIO.
K: No one knows what happened right. (smile)

Koichi really took a long time to bath. And he gave out this "uncle" sound when he reached the bathtub.

---- Usually, what do you call each other?
N: "Nagase" "Koichi"
K: Sometimes I will call Nagase "Tomozou" or "Ossan", etc. (smile)
N: I will also call "Kouchan" or "Kusojiji". (smile) (Facing the editor) Well, coz this guy is really like an uncle. In the past during the dormitory days, when Koichi and I shared the same room, I will usually sleep first but this person will always go to bath. And he always took so long. I thought he will do a quick bath but who knows he's like an uncle who will let out those sounds to show he's satisfied with his bath. (smile)
K: It's not like that at all. You are making this up.
N: And when he's out of the bathroom, he will tie a bath towel around his waist and sit on the bed with a "dokkoisho" (*Note: I think it's like some sounds old uncles will make... LOL!)
K: Hey you... (and at this time an insect flew past in front of Koichi's face) UWA-A! (And he stood up from his seat suddenly)
N: HAHAHA~ Koichi really hates insects right. It was really terrible during those dormitory days. During those times, it's always me who chased away the insects.
K: But I was playing the role of your alarm clock ok. Really hard to wake you up.
N: Coz that's my revenge. A return to you for taking late baths and being so noisy and making me unable to sleep.
K: Yah right. If not for me waking you up, you will always be late ok.

---- Koichi is better in waking up?
K: Though I'm really sleepy too, I can still wake up in agony. But this fellow doesn't wake up at all. Even when his body woke up in a second, the next second he would fall back to sleep. During such times, I will sometime pull him to the bathroom.
N: But while this continued, when I didn't say anything, Koichi will ask "Nagase, what time should I wake you up tmr?" (smile)
K: I said that. I said that.
N: And we did "shaving leg's hair" at that time too right.
K: This topic again? (smile)
N: But Koichi's hair isn't that thick so it's usually me and Tsuyoshi.
K: Add soap and shave right.
N: Looking at our smooth legs, "Hmm, can't stand it. This smooth/sleek feel" we'll say.
K: So disgusting. (smile)

Because we talked about love with each other, I think our friendship became even deeper.

N: And during that time, we talked about love too as well right.
K: Oh yes, we did.
N: Until that time, I never talked about this kind of topic with any other guys, that's why somehow unexpectedly I think my friendship with Koichi deepened. It's not about being troubled by love in the actual way but just discussing about "I like this type (of girl)".
K: Our type was the same last time right. I can't say anything about now though.
N: Kogyaru (smile) (*Note: It's those young girls with thick dark make-up usually with dyed hair in blonde/gold)
K: But it's not about gaudy showy girls just high school girls. After all we are in the same generation.

---- So both of you like loose socks?
N: I like I like. (smile)
K: Under the short uniform skirt, the loose socks. Not bad right. (heartily)
N: And if it's personal wear, BOOTS!
K: Especially white ones.
N: The hair colour a little brown and put on a little eyeshadow.
K: I don't like thick make-up.
N: (insistently) No! Just a little bit to show she's fashionable.
K: If so then ok.
N: And light pink lipstick.
K: (forming line with his eyes) Yes yes... hey, don't we sound like old uncles? (smile)
N: Oh no. (smile)

---- How about older women?
N: (loudly) I like.
K: But even when we say older women, it will be good if she can become "the younger one" when we are together.
N: And someone who can accept everything sometimes.

---- The type of girls you like was the same in the past. How about recently? Is it still alike?
K: How it is now.
N: But, when it comes to love, the girl you like is everything. It has nothing to do with type.
K: Can say that too. So Nagase, you have anyone you like recently? Are you in love?
N: Well, if you say yes, I can say yes I am. If you say no, I can say I'm not.
K: What's that? But when we look at girls, if we start to stop feeling "(that girl) not bad right", then we won't be humans right.
N: Yes, even when we are really busy now, to like someone it has nothing to do with time. It's all up to us. For me, if I like someone, I am more of a person who will say "I like you" directly.
K: Ah, I can't do that. That's why I just let the girl I like pass by.
N: From the past, Koichi is one who doesn't say right. But if he likes someone, it will be for a long time.
K: That's why I get hurt easily.

If we go to karaoke together, we will definitely sing "Uchuu keiji gyaban" and get high.

---- Recently as work gets busier, isn't the time to meet up with each other decreasing compared to the past?
N: But without any changes... (staring at Koichi's eyes with some meaning) it's a "naked relationship" right. (*Note: "hadaka no tsukiai" in the normal meaning refers to being true to each other. But the way Nagase puts it is too... *leads to wild imagination*)
K: Don't say in that weird tone! (smile) Will invite misunderstandings. (as he spoke, he accidentally spilled his orange juice onto the tape recorder that is recording their conversation)
N: (laughing like mad) Oi, you... what are you nervous about?
K: Noo... (smile)
N: Is it ok? The tape recorder. Wait a minute. "Ah, ah" (the gentle Nagase who is testing the tape recorder)

---- For instance, during an off day, if both of you meet up, what will you do and get high?
N: We don't usually have off days during the same time, but sometimes we'll go to karaoke together.
K: Yes. Nagase is really amazing. He can sing all kinds of songs, even English songs, perfectly. Plus all the actions. Where did you remember all those? And so many of them.
N: I often borrow CD and remember. But for Koichi, no matter what kind of songs, if he doesn't get into the mood, he won't sing.
K: It's embarrassing to sing until like that.
N: I see. And the songs he will sing are always fixed. What he will definitely sing is "Ginga Tetsudou 999" song.
K: I like it since the past. But between the two of us, the song that gets us the most high is "Uchu keiji gyaban".
N: Yes yes, the theme song. The kind that will transform, gyaban is our hero ne.
K: Yah. And when we sang that, the video will be that film so it's really nostalgic.
N: But when I go to karaoke with Koichi, I behaved myself better.
K: Really?
N: If I go with my hometown friends, we will be really rowdy. There's one time when the staff came to us asking us to behave ourselves. (smile)
K: When the room is sound-proof? (smile) Unbelieveable, you guys.

Even if, we didn't enter the jimusho, but are nearby each other, we'll definitely become friends.

---- Do you go shopping together?
N: Not recently but we used to.
K: Right now we are usually very busy during the daytime. but since "Toki-Kin" started, we had more chances to see each other.
N: Compared to shopping, I think we go for meals more often? We will contact each other, and if we got through, even when it's late at night, it will be like "So shall we go to family restaurant?".

---- 2 idols going to family restaurant? (smile)
K: Yah, we don't mind and will just go. And not only the 2 of us but Jr. Hara-kun and Sano-kun, etc. will join too.
N: When we leave our job, we are just living our lives like normal people. And when we go for meals, we really eat quite a lot too.

---- Any favourite food out of the family restaurant menu?
N: Carbonara (smile)
K: Nothing specific for me.
N: Koichi likes fruits don't you? Always eating them. Why?
K: Even when you ask me why... coz they taste good. (smile) For me, there's nothing I really like under prepared food, but not that there is anything specific I hate too.

---- Looking at both of you, you have a really good balance between each other. It's not about who taking up the leadership or doing the arrangement
K: It's too troublesome for either of us to call the shots. So it's just naturally like this.
N: But on the surface, it's almost like I'm leading right?
K: Coz Nagase is really mature ne.
N: Previously during a photoshoot, someone asked me "Are you the same age as Shigeru-kun?" and I was really shocked.
K: You looked like a 26-year-old!? (smile) But you are 18 inside... no, if we talk about your mental age, it could be lower... (smile)
N: Isn't it the same for you? (smile) But then, for us, even if we didn't enter the jimusho, but we are nearby each other, we are definitely the type who will become friends right.
K: Most likely, from now onwards, I'll get along with Nagase in this manner.
N: Ohh.

From Junon 1996
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It never fails to make me laugh when I see that "naked r/s" part... and how Koichi flustered and spilled his drink. laugh.gif That boy... I love these 2 boys so much... love7.gif

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Posted: Nov 25 2006, 10:13 PM


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Thank you, Elysia, for this translation even if it is an old one. These two are really buddy buddy, a relationship much more boyish and boisterous than the Tsuyoshi-Koichi relationship. No wonder why you are so into Nagase x Koichi pairing. Now I understand a bit better how lively Koichi is in real life in a friendship.

I want to know what are the songs Koichi like to sing at the Karoake sound like. Could anyone write it out in Japanese characters please? laugh.gif

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haha, it's so funny to read how Koichi remembers more than Nagase. maybe Nagase was just trying to play down how close they were wink.gif and the fact that Koichi spilled some juice on the recorder.. oi oi! "don't be flustered" indeed (^_^)

i do wonder how V6 would turn out if Nagase went to work with them.. XD
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Posted: Nov 26 2006, 03:56 AM


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Sandra,
I have every good reason to love them more than any other pairing. They just represent true love more than anyone else in the world. *me and my baka brain* laugh.gif Gee~ I don't have the original Japanese text with me already... I'll go dig out some other time.

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NxK doesn't have many crosstalks over the past years, but here's another translation I did.

The first time we met, Nagase called out
K: The first time we met was around 12~13 years ago.
N: Yes. In this way, we have been friends for like half of our lifetime. The first time we saw each other was in the dormitory.
K: The first day I went to the dormitory, Nagase was among the many Jrs. there. I belong to the shy type of person, but Nagase was different, he said "Let's play baseball game!" to me.
N: *laugh* This is what kids will do.
K: After which, we did play the baseball game (TV game). Even though I was playing this game for the first time, I won. *laugh* Nagase said, "You are amazing!" to me.
N: Well, it wasn't about winning or losing. At that time, what was most important was the communication. *laugh* But to me at that time, nothing was more enjoyable than being able to play like that. So when Koichi came, I feel like I am making more friends, and so I was really very happy.
K: But what I feel was that during that time, Nagase wasn't as big as now.
N: *laugh* It's true that from the outside, you can see that I've changed. But my inner self hasn't changed at all.
K: No, Nagase has changed, about 5 years ago.
N: So have I become worse?
K: How should I put it? The naive-ness in you is still the same as the past, but recently, even in that naive-ness, you have steadily shown some thoughts.
N: Is it? I never really thought until such deep level... Even right now, I am not thinking much as well. *laugh*
K: Well, both of us have become less mischievous ne~ As we grow older, of course this is a natural thing.
N: Both of us used to be mischievous ne~ As we left the dormitory, there is a period of time when we stayed in the hotel. At that time, my room and Koichi's were always besides each other, so we can see each other every day.
K: Those were the days~ There was one late night when suddenly someone knocked at my door. "So noisy, what's up?" and I went out of my room, and there Nagase was standing "Let's watch this, it's superb yo!" and he passed me a videotape. I was wondering to myself what kind of video was it that he had to show me at this hour... It turned out to be the cute "Tonari no Totoro". *laugh*
N: It's a masterpiece ok. It was my dream to sleep on the tummy of Totoro.
K: Anyway, I watched it too. It was shown on TV too sometime ago right? After watching that, the memories of what you did appeared too. *laugh*
N: When I was holding the video during that time, actually I was worried if Koichi will like it or not. But Koichi really watched it properly, so I was really delighted.
K: Btw, at that time, I met incidents of 'spirits' (金縛り= 被鬼压?) quite often. Even when the problem is solved, I don't dare to stay in my own room alone, so I would go find Nagase, but he slept like a dead log! So angry~ *laugh*
N: Eh? I didn't know about this at all? Such kind of thing happened?
K: About 2~3 times yo.
N: Right now, it's the first time I heard about this. *laugh*

Due to "my pace", even if there's no conversation, it's ok
Note: "My pace" refers to doing things at your own pace, in your own way.
K: Nagase is a person who is hard to wake up once he fell asleep.
N: There was once when I just fell asleep in Koichi's room. I went over to your room to play, and got sleepy, then that's it. But since both of us are "my pace", even if we have anything to talk to each other, it is ok.
K: After we ended our hotel life, it remains as so when we visited each other's house. I went to Nagase's house, Nagase was playing his TV games, and on the sofa at the side, there I was sleeping. *laugh* We don't feel strange about it.
N: Un~ We don't mind at all.
K: When did it start to become like this? I can't remember what kind of process did we go through to become like this, it was just natural.
N: That's because the time we spent together was just too long ne. The interesting episodes between us are so many until they are near the stage of decomposition. And now when I think back, those are not exactly any special events, but just some silly little things.
K: With the accumulation of such memories, we have come so far ne.
N: But of course, we not only visited each other's houses, but also went out together.
K: Like travelling to nowhere in the car.
N: There are times when I would invite Koichi to go fishing together, or bring him back to my hometown, and play with everyone.
K: I'm more of a non-active person, on the contrary, Nagase is one who's very active and likes to move around. I just follow him around.
N: Recently, we didn't go many places, but for meals, we did travelled to everywhere.
K: Barbacued meat (yakiniku) and family restaurant... Oh yes, there was once when I went to have yakiniku with some other people, after I got home, Nagase called me "Shall we go and eat yakiniku?" *laugh* "Yakiniku ah~~" and I was thinking for a moment at that time, but in the end, I still went.
N: *laugh* That time when you came, I was also really happy.

In the company, we may be in 2 opposite positions
K: Our work... sometimes we will get to see when we switch on the TV, but we don't do until the degree of 'checking'. *laugh*
N: "Today, what is Koichi doing?" kind of checking, "Ah~ It's interview"... it would be too scary if we check like this.
K: *laugh* But I think to see the way Nagase does his work, it's like I will see that it is a face he will show at work. Like what I said just now, this 5 years, the reason that made him change could be this as well. In a way, TOKIO has 5 members, we have 2 people, because it is a different situation, we can feel what each other doesn't have.
N: Ah~ It could be that. Koichi and I could be at opposite positions in the company. For me, when I read the newspapers of Koichi working hard for his musical, I would think he is so impressive. Because what he is doing is something I can never achieve, it is something I will acknowledge/appreciate too. But I won't specially say this out.
K: There are things that we acknowledge/appreciate about each other.
N: At the same time, we can fill up what each other doesn't have. But I have to say that I only hang out with people who can give me positive impact. Koichi is one such existence to me. When I am with Koichi, my life which is already 100% will become 150%. Things that I can't talk about with (TOKIO) members or my family, somehow I will end up telling Koichi.
K: There are times I am like this too.
N: Interesting existence ne~
K: Somehow it's not a relationship that people normally can have.

10 years anniversary... let's do it the way we have always done
N: In a way, we never specially report to each other about our work details. Like we won't make "I will be the lead in the upcoming drama" kind of phone calls. *laugh* When the debut of TOKIO was decided, I didn't specially call to inform as well.
K: But, at that time, we would perform at [Idol on Stage] every week. Until then, we are always doing cover songs of our seniors, the first time when TOKIO did their original song "Love You Only", I thought it was wonderful. "That's TOKIO's style", I thought. This year is 10 years anniversary right? How...? Do you guys feel that "It's 10 years!"? Because I think to KinKi Kids, as we are reaching 10 years anniversary, we probably won't feel anything special. *laugh*
N: This is quite true. I never thought that 10 years anniversary is actually such a great thing.
K: You think so too? The other time, on the day that was KinKi Kids 7 years anniversary, we didn't realise it ourselves until some people mentioned it. It wasn't any great thing. Well, 7 years and 10 years, the meaning of the different stages may be different.
N: No, actually, due to the fact that it is 10 years anniversary, I would feel that there is a need to put in more zest. But from the past till now, we have been working very hard, putting in much energy, if we were to work even harder, I think our bodies cannot take it. *laugh* From the beginning of this year, everyone has been mentioning about our 10 years anniversary, after much thinking, I think we should just do it the way we have always done, and I feel more at ease with myself now.
K: Of course, to be able to welcome 10 years anniversary, it is important to feel thankful towards the surrounding people.
N: Un.. Therefore, the phrase "Congratulations! 10 years anniversary" maybe should not be said to us.
K: If not for the fans and staff' support, we would not have come so far. But, with the support of surrounding people, it is also necessary for us to work hard ourselves, if we think it this way, it may be "congrats" to us as well...... The phrase "Congratulations" may not give a really different feel, but if we said "Isn't it good", it will be another different feeling.
N: Somehow it's a weird feeling.
K: Yes, I don't really know what to say.
N: Well, in any case, we are not really outsiders who need to use the phrase "Congrats".

From Poporo 2004
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I'm always amused by the fact that Nagase is such a big kid... he wants Koichi to watch Totoro with him! laughing1.gif And the thing is Koichi actually did watch with him! And that yakiniku incident just reminds me how Koichi cannot refuse Nagase's requests at all... These 2... love7.gif love7.gif But the most ultimate thing is when Nagase said Koichi makes his life become 150%... *aww~ sweet!* I wish I have a soulmate in my life whom I can say that to as well...

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Sharing at my own risk...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Ok30U4qE8

The most comprehensive NxK fanvid ever...

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Posted: Nov 29 2006, 10:03 PM


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I like that video a lot, all that jumping towards and onto Nagase. Koichi really likes hanging on to him literally!

Thank you for sharing it here, Elysia. That video always bring a smile to know that Koichi has a happy and light side.

Oh, I think it was one of the Johnny's Power and the two went on a motorbike ride. I want to find that clip again and screencap some photos of them riding the bike!


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el, what an awesome, cute cute CUTE fanvid :) which compiles so many moments.. *sighs* nagase and koichi are really, really good friends man..
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Posted: Dec 2 2006, 03:13 PM


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I found one short article that I could translate real quickly too!

Junon December 1999

"After coming to Tokyo, even though I have made a lot of friends, only one could be said to be really close is Koichi."

Even though I have many friends, the one who could be said to be close are not many. Tokio members don't talk much. Since moving to Tokyo, I haven't really made any close friends but the one that is really close is Koichi? Why? Our personality is exact opposite. (laugh) Perhaps it's because of this, it's better?

From the time I entered JE, we have already a friendship of 6 or 7 years. Of course, when we are together, we talk about love, and also work. I and Koichi's relationship are such that we could talk about everything. But, he is not the type who especially would say, "I have something to discuss with you" type of person. But very naturally, we could discuss things of substance. That's how Koichi and I go on with out discussions. We don't hesitate or have to think about it first but it comes naturallly, unconsciously we would enter our discussions.

And most important of all, when the other party is bothered by something, even if we don't say it out loud, we could feel it through the airspace.

When Koichi notices that I am depressed, he would encourage me. But not that type of obvious encouragement. But the natural type of invitation and he would say, "Following let's go dinner!" But because basically we both are very innocent, we often say, "let it be/forget it", and our worries end there. (laughs)

Just like that when we are together, we don't care about the other parts, that's not bad? As long as we are together, we would feel very relaxed and would not have other anxieties. Sometimes, when I go to Koichi's house to play video games, that guy would go out. You really don't treat me as a guest! (laughs) We are that type of normal friends.

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Very sweet!!!


Here's a pix I found of the two unrelated to the article.

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Posted: Dec 2 2006, 07:30 PM


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Sandra,
I read the one above as well... Chinese translation though... I'm bugging a friend of mine for the original text. laugh.gif

Btw, I'm also waiting for a full text regarding Taichi's Jweb... coz apparently from his mail, we know that between the hours when Koichi was waiting for KinKi's turn to appear on stage in Best Artist, he's hanging around in TOKIO's dressing room, playing with Nagase. laugh.gif Oh man... I want those backstage photos!!!

Can only pray for exciting NxK interaction in FNS... love4.gif

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Posted: Dec 2 2006, 11:36 PM


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OMG, Koichi playing with Nagase?

And leaving Tsuyoshi rather sick by himself? with no Junichi around? But there's his other half from fantastipo laughing3.gif laughing3.gif

Looking forward to it!!! Do well in your exams, Elysia, nevertheless!

BTW, Elysia, check out the Everything about KK singles thread. Koichi spoke a bit about the MV. I only read a brief summary in broken translation about him thinking of the poor when making the MV. After your exams and if you are interested, perhaps you could tell us his deep thoughts on the matter. I'm touched just reading the brief summary.

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